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YouView delayed again, signs its own death certificate

YouView, the on-demand TV service from the major broadcasters and broadband providers has once again been delayed, the company has announced, this time until "early 2012".

And that's probably the last thing you'll ever hear about the service, because by the time it does get around to launching, no one will care. Even if the service could magically arrive tomorrow, it still wouldn't have much of a chance, given the prevalence of online-service 'portals' on Blu-ray players and TVs.

A 2012 launch achieves only one thing, and that's to allow Sony, Samsung and LG to develop better and better online features on their hardware, which do essentially the same job as a YouView box will. Many already have YouTube and BBC iPlayer, for example. Even Panasonic, which currently operates the weakest portal, will have a much improved version up and running this year.

That really shuts YouView out, because electronics manufacturers want to control how their customers access catch-up TV -- and companies who've invested in their own portal are unlikely to make YouView boxes or include the service in their TVs.

The reason these built-in portals reign supreme is they're contained within things you've already bought. There's no need for yet another box to cost you money and take up space. And money is a big issue -- YouView hardware is expected to cost £200 at launch, and that's simply too expensive. A Sony Blu-ray player will only set you back £100, and will give you Demand Five and iPlayer, as well as LoveFilm access. Sony has big plans too, so expect all sorts of new services to arrive over time.

There's also a real problem with the messaging. Making a lot of fuss early on about 'Project Canvas' was an idiotic move. Codenames might excite geeks, but they're little more than an ego trip for whoever thinks them up. When the final moniker is chosen, no real people will connect the codename to the finished product.

(Look at Apple, a company that has perfected hype. It doesn't give things codenames that reach the public and when it announces a product, that's when we find out what it's called. The one time it did let a codename slip was with Apple TV, which it had named iTV, another TV-streaming project that hasn't exactly done brilliantly.)

The current technical samples of YouView boxes used to demonstrate the service to stakeholders at the BBC, ITV and BT have been blighted with reliability problems, according to a Telegraph source. With each company involved already having spent £6m, he was surprised and annoyed that no one could show a box that didn't crash as soon as it was turned on.

So far, YouView has promised very little. We know it will provide catch-up services to set-top boxes, but that's a market served brilliantly by Virgin, and increasingly by Sky, which has launched an on-demand streaming service to certain customers. Both of those companies are opposed to YouView because they say it will damage their services.

We don't think they really have much to worry about. Virgin's new TiVo service, on the other hand, really will change the way people watch TV, and in a much simpler way.

So, with tens of millions already spent, 150 people employed by the company and no less than 18 months of development, you would have expected it to have already have launched. The fact it hasn't suggests the project is either poorly managed or the goal is just too ambitious. Whatever the problem, YouView is dead in the water.

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Anonymous 10 February, 2011 23:00

yawn

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Anonymous 11 February, 2011 11:50

I was interviewed for a contract with Project Canvas back in June last year.

The platform is developed, from what I gathered, mostly in C++.

The questions I got asked had nothing to do with broadcasting experience (I worked with Leitch, Encoda, BBC and the BFI in the past), but instead about template metaprogramming.

Needless to say I didn’t get the job because, after all, I am not very experienced with template metaprogramming as IMHO, it is, for most work in this area, a waste of time…

I am not disputing the technical capabilities of the team, but my gut feeling at the time showed a focus for theoretical rather than pragmatic solutions to problems: they mentioned something about issue with builds and also lack of understanding of distributed source control, which kind of gave me reasons to doubt their practices.

I am therefore not surprised to hear about technical delays. I am also unhappy to hear that this could be partially funded by the tax payer.

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anonymous 11 February, 2011 15:15

Ian, I disagree. Youview will be free and will aggregate all the main terrestrial channels' catchup services with Freeview HD. I still have the original TiVo and it's great, but the recommendation service is not worth much, and all the other functionality will be in Youview. I will happily wait for Youview rather than buying what will no doubt be a terrible and half baked proposition from Samsung or LG. Let's face it, the tv makers are not known for their great UIs.

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rbrian 11 February, 2011 22:59

I still don't get the purpose of YouView, when more or less everything is already available through existing services and devices - my PS3 has BBC iPlayer, ITV Player, and 4od, and anything else is available through my laptop, which can be linked to my TV with a £10 cable, or just watched on the laptop in bed!

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Anonymous 19 February, 2011 12:27

some significant soul-searching has to be done there - ongoing work/investment since at least 2009 and as yet not even a demonstrable teaser. the world is not going to hang around for youview to launch - youview will wind up being a set of optional extensions to freeview (optional for freeview box manufacturers to implement), nothing more

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Anonymous 24 February, 2011 08:30

I am not sure I agree that this is the end for Youview - there are still plenty of people who have existings and home cinema systems that don't have this functionality, and who will want to take advantage. Also, the cost of a YouView box I expect will be sub-£200 within a short time after release, and I think there is also a 'bedroom' market also.

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