What's the best beta? IE 8 vs Opera 9.5 vs Safari vs Firefox 3
Tags: add ons, tab, visit, opera
Microsoft Internet Explorer 8, beta 1
What's new?
The first interesting addition to IE is 'Web Slices'. It's essentially a Microsoft version of RSS and serves a similar purpose. Web developers can assign areas of their sites to be 'sliceable', so updates to that area are available to the browser in the form of a tab. In a provided example, friend statuses in Facebook can be sliced, adding a pull-down tab on IE 8's new 'Favourites Bar' that displays three of the most recent status updates along with their photo. We're not entirely sure of the point of this, as RSS already works perfectly well.
'Activities' are also new, and add actions to the browser's contextual menus, such as 'Send to digg' and 'Share on Facebook'. It's a handy feature, though only 'Search with Live Search' is included with the install, and every example on Microsoft's site produced Javascript errors for us. But this is a beta release after all, and we can see this being a useful feature, even if similar functionality is already available by using add-ons in Firefox ('Digg This!' springs instantly to mind).
Crash-tested
Microsoft has also integrated 'Automated Crash Recovery'. This lets each IE window or tab be handled by separate Windows processes, so if one tab in a window of ten tabs crashes or hangs, it can be terminated without the entire browser needing to be manually closed and restarted. The feature worked well when we forced IE to terminate its processes in Task Manager, though real-life crash recovery remains to be seen.
Along with improving compliance with Web-design standards, IE 8 is a decent improvement over IE 7. Web Slices may be useful if enough sites adopt it, but RSS is commonplace and isn't tied to one installation of a browser -- Web Slices will only be in place if you're using your home computer, whereas anything subscribed to with RSS can be accessible from any PC in the world if the right services are used. And seriously, where's the download manager? IE needs a download manager.
We do like the lower memory and CPU overheads though -- IE 8 was less resource-intensive than Firefox in our tests, so new computer users or those with less capable machines may be perfect candidates for IE 8.
How it compares
It may save 'company time' being wasted on fixing a crashed Firefox, and it's probably compatible with your corporate VPN software, too, so it's a decent choice in a business environment. There will surely be a beta or two more before the final release, so if you're already using IE 7, keep your office-focused eyes peeled. It's not going to be a crucial download for us, however, if nothing major changes between now and the final release.
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AnonymousWed 19 March, 2008 4:38am
I love Firefox. I have tried all the 4 browsers mentioned, and Flock too. I should say that if anything comes near to FF, that is Flock. But then FF rules...
AnonymousWed 19 March, 2008 4:55am
Flock me.
AnonymousWed 19 March, 2008 5:53am
You can have bookmarks with just the icon showing by using the #160 character (alt-0160) for the name in case anyone was wondering.
AnonymousWed 19 March, 2008 7:11am
Safari 3.1 ?
It's out of beta for windows
AnonymousWed 19 March, 2008 7:29am
The funny things that all the funboys of Firefox (like CNET) never mention flaws with Firefox 2.0 (like massive memory usage) until it is fixed in Firefox 3.
J RiversWed 19 March, 2008 7:47am
> The funny things that all the funboys of Firefox (like CNET) never mention flaws
> with Firefox 2.0 (like massive memory usage) until it is fixed in Firefox 3.
Please don't just make assumptions; most people in the office have moved from Firefox 2 to Firefox 3 because of the massive speed increases present.
AnonymousWed 19 March, 2008 8:14am
fire fox sucks compared to safari
AnonymousWed 19 March, 2008 9:22am
Firefox is the best of a rotten group. ever open new yahoo mail, or whatever ajaxified web 2.0 app du jour and check your resources? it's massive. outlook uses less resources than firefox + new yahoo mail!!!!!
Some people may want their browser to be the be all end all but many of us just want it to read news, shop, and browse.
AnonymousWed 19 March, 2008 9:43am
Since no other browser has the addons that Firefox does, there's simply no contest. No matter what features other browsers add, I'll always use Firefox.
AnonymousWed 19 March, 2008 9:58am
"outlook uses less resources than firefox + new yahoo mail!!!!!"
obviously you're having trouble differentiating between a dedicated email application and a multi purpose web browser viewing AJAX, which is known to be resource hungry. That's hardly the fault of the browser, in fact you should be grateful for all the standards it supports to make your web experience better.
AnonymousWed 19 March, 2008 11:45am
This entire article was a bit premature; Opera 9.5, IE8 and even Firefox 3 are all STILL IN BETA!!!! Comparing them now is like tasting a cake before it's even finished baking.
Why don't we wait until ALL these browsers are out of beta, THEN test them? Some of the results here may change in the final versions.
AnonymousWed 19 March, 2008 12:35pm
Façam o teste do Acid3 pra saber quem é o mais padronizado, com certeza o IE ão será um dos melhores, nesse caso!!
CartmanWed 19 March, 2008 12:42pm
Firefox is and will continue to be the best of this bunch. From a development point of view it has great add-ons that help in building and debugging sites. It is standards compliant, I was so many hours fixing bugs caused by incorrect rendering in IE.
The freely available add-ons for Firefox is what makes it always ahead of IE. When I checked for IE add-ons they are either inferior or cost money and are few and far between.
Safari browser is nice and quick and light on resources but lack of features and no support for certain wifi hotspots that have a landing page makes it my least used browser.
I'm pleased that all of the browser developers are trying to improve their products but the best thing that could happen is forced retirement of old editions as otherwise it just means I have to support and test in an ever increasing number or browsers for my sites.
CartmanWed 19 March, 2008 12:43pm
Out of the box opera is probably the best but because of the add-ons for Mozilla's browser Firefox is still number 1 for me.
AnonymousWed 19 March, 2008 1:02pm
I just upgraded my Safari to 3.1 and I have to say that it is lightning fast compared to the Firefox 3.03b I am using and my fave browser, OmniWeb (5.7b). There is just no contest in speed which is what most of us crave in all of our apps.
Falcon
AnonymousWed 19 March, 2008 1:35pm
Might be interesting to look at the other browser shells for webkit. While webkit is pretty remarkable, Safari hasn't really kept up the pace of innovation. iCab, OmniWeb, or Sunrise might provide more features that you like without giving up the advantages of webkit.
AnonymousWed 19 March, 2008 3:08pm
Why the limit to Windows browsers? Safari on OS X is far faster with more features than its Windows version. Camino's not bad either. Realistically, IE8 won't be out for at least 12 more months. Fx, Safari, and Opera will all have betas of their next version out by then.
AnonymousWed 19 March, 2008 4:02pm
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AnonymousWed 19 March, 2008 6:28pm
Huh, I've never seen Firefox 2 running over 200MB on a machine, never mind around 500MB. Right now its only using 158MB w/ about 12 tabs open a with about 5-6 plugins. Unless they are testing on Vista, im on XP. But everyone knows Vista is a bloated sack of crap.
AnonymousThu 20 March, 2008 4:06am
Opera 9.50's an ALPHA
Nate LanxonThu 20 March, 2008 4:45pm
Opera says it's a beta, and I'm inclined to believe them.
AnonymousFri 21 March, 2008 2:50pm
Indeed, Opera is beta. But the real difference is, that Opera 9.5 beta 1 is far the oldest release among the contenders. Beta 2 is on it's way.
AnonymousSun 23 March, 2008 11:49am
This is a good.
AnonymousThu 27 March, 2008 12:38am
I don't think Opera was really given the chance to shine in this review. Not much was mentioned about performance increases and stability similar to Firefox's increases performance. Many features that are available to Firefox via extensions are native in Opera, and a lot of them were seen in Opera first.
AnonymousWed 2 April, 2008 1:09am
Opera is better than firefox. I first switched to opera because of the massive resource problems in Firefox, dating back to 2005. Opera has all the features of Firefox and more. The features people think are lacking in Opera are simply not publicized because Opera isn't as popular. (userjs, for example). Opera loads & browses faster and is MUCH more standards-compliant. A common misconception is that it's "less compatible" - this is because of poorly designed sites forcing you to use either IE or FF.
Don't say that Firefox is better because they mostly fixed some huge problems it had before. Opera never had and doesn't have those problems. It took the the FF dev team three years to fix that memory bloat so as far as I'm concerned those guys lost their chance. I'll stick with Opera like always and I'll check out Flock. I've also heard good things about Redit but never used it.
nerdynickFri 4 April, 2008 11:57pm
ZOMG extensions ftw! Even though most Firefox users probably only use a few that are more than likely already natively integrated into Opera. The typical firefox tard doesn't realize how much he gives up just for the ability to heap on leaky bloated extensions.
AnonymousSat 5 April, 2008 8:32pm
I LOVE OPERA.
I have tested nearly all available (windows) browsers including:
Opera 7.2 + 7.5x + 8.0 + 8.5x + 9.x + 9.5x beta, Netscape 7 + 8 + 9,
Internet explorer 4 + 5.x + 6 + 7 (auch mit AOL 7 + 8 + 9) ,
Flock, Safari 3 beta, Mozilla-FireBird, Mozilla-Suite/seamonkey,
Mozilla-FireFox 1 + 1.5 + 2.0.x.x + 3.0 beta, Kameleon,
Konquer 3.x (nur linux)
As Standard-Browser I used at first (leke every AOL greenhorn)
AOL 7/8/9, then change to Internet Explorer 6, then to
Mozilla-Suite/seamonkey, then change to FireFox 1 + 1.5 and now
(since DEZ 2005) I only use Opera (8.5x + 9.x + 9.5x beta)
(sorry. delete my post above, I have vorgotten to write ALL in english and seen
it after summit first)
DavidRGilsonSat 19 April, 2008 12:33pm
What with Opera desktop recording every word you browse and Opera Mini being a proxy service, it all sounds like a privacy nightmare.
AnonymousSun 20 April, 2008 11:51am
Opera would be ideal, had it not the infamous and frequent ntdll crash, something unfortunately persistant in many versions. Has it to do with AMD's processors?
Firefox with NoScript add-on has the best security though so the best solution is for unknown sites to use Firefox, for the standard sites you visit, either Opera or Safari (for this now Safari is my fav browser since Opera crashes) and if you want to do secure tasks like e-shopping or protect your privacy, use either Firefox or Explorer (preferably Maxthon add-on)
AnonymousThu 1 May, 2008 8:01pm
Opera 9.27 and 9.50b2 ROCKS!!!
Its the SAFEST and the FASTEST browser in town...
Opera gives you that glassy look to websites.. which make them look cool(er)..
When it comes to add ons... Firefox is good.. but looking at performance in loading sites/images.. Opera is the way to go
Im waiting for the final releases of all browsers.. so that we can choose the best one to browse the net
AnonymousMon 5 May, 2008 11:47pm
flock and opera are good but i dink ff is still the best except for the s-pee.ling checks in the boxes you type in. THAT SUCKS
AnonymousSun 11 May, 2008 11:27am
well if u hav a resource hog lyk vistan only a gig of ram, lyk i do, then i think safari is the best browser to use
AnonymousTue 20 May, 2008 6:59am
opera is fastest and it's OBVIOUSLY default
weetanhopsTue 20 May, 2008 5:20pm
I used to love firefox but recently it NEVER loads up images properly and is really slow. I have no extensions and haven't messed with about:config at all so it's incredibly annoying that it does this. I thought i'd give Opera another go because I used to use it all the time and it's brilliant. It opens up faster than firefox and especially safari, and like many people have said a lot of the most popular extensions on firefox are on here by default and were also here first.
Does anybody know what is causing the problems with firefox? I'm using the most recent beta.
weetanhopsTue 20 May, 2008 5:22pm
*Edits to my above post:
when I say opens faster I mean application-wise. I find that Opera is still faster than firefox at loading pages though (see above post) but Safari is just ahead of Opera.
-w
AnonymousSat 24 May, 2008 10:20pm
Opera is tha best its had tabs & very low memory usage for yrs only tha other follow us every yr & try to upgrade to us.
AnonymousSun 1 June, 2008 7:41pm
Firefox 3 is the best! Right now its at RC 1 and will go final in June.
Help Firefox set a word record for the most downloads in 24-hours. Just download Firefox 3 during word wide download day 2008 (the day Firefox 3 is released).
-JOHN
AnonymousWed 11 June, 2008 6:12pm
man firefox rc2 does not support megaupload toolbar,
ie beta 8 to tacky
safari does not support skins or some sites
opera looks ugly!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AnonymousWed 18 June, 2008 1:59pm
"Opera looks ugly"
no it doesn't,
you can change it's appearance by downloading new skins ;)
AnonymousThu 3 July, 2008 8:13pm
hello guys;
i had already used firefox 3, opera 9.5, IE 8, & safari 3. & believe me opera 9.5 is far much better than the rest ones.
its download speed is also mush faster than the rest. & it has an additional feature to open wap sites (mobile sites), which the other browsr cant. It also has a superb look, & has a speed dial feature.
but for security, i think firefox is better option.
AnonymousFri 11 July, 2008 6:32am
IE<Safari<Firefox<Opera
Haven't tried Flock, though.
AnonymousTue 29 July, 2008 2:31am
firefox rulessssss and just think u can put the safari in the ipods so how simple is that!!!
AnonymousMon 4 August, 2008 6:07am
Hey, whatever floats your boat. I personally moved to firefox, and I have been satisfied. But that isn't to say I've never tried any other browsers. Each have their own strengths and flaws, and each is suited for different people. Can't we all just get along?
AnonymousThu 7 August, 2008 2:00pm
i agree that opera9.5 is the best so far (haven't tried safari and i'm about to install it).
ff3 draws strength from addons. but with compatibility issues, ff3 is losing it's trek T T. i had frequent crashes since it's release. you can't live with standard firefox alone. addon pawns.
i'm using opera9.5 now and i'm loving it. i'm contented with the way it handles my browsing. good content blocker, email/feed reader, great script performance and i like how i mange my bookmarks with it (unlike firefox).
if opera only went opensource and addons won't be scarce then it will definitely on par with firefox.
IE no comment. stil the same ><
AnonymousThu 7 August, 2008 3:03pm
ok. i'm done with safari haha that was quick. lack of capabilities.
opera for the win

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AnonymousWed 19 March, 2008 3:33am
What about Flock? I am WAY impressed with it. I am completely blown away with their customer service too - the two things I requested they not only fixed, they THANKED me for letting them know!