How much will Windows Phone 8 cost? The first prices for the Nokia Lumia 920 and Nokia Lumia 820 have emerged from Europe.
Nokia Russia, Nokia Germany and Nokia Italy are first to show off the new Lumias, quoting prices of £517 for the 920 and £398 for the 820. How those prices will translate into Great British Pounds remains to be seen, but I suspect a few quid could be bunged on top courtesy of Her Majesty's taxman.
The 920, the flagship phone for Windows Phone 8, is slightly cheaper than the iPhone 5, which starts at £530. But it's still a lot of money for an operating system that has yet to establish itself -- and I say that as someone who loves Windows Phone.
The new Lumias are the first major phones to have wireless charging gubbins built-in, although we're yet to hear which British coffees shops or other partners are going to stick wireless chargers in their branches.
The first indications of Windows Phone 8 pricing came from HTC's Windows Phone phones, although those prices vary wildly. The 8X was first quoted as costing £400, before Amazon came up with a price closer to £530. The HTC Windows Phone devices are both decent-looking blowers, but that's still a lot of wonga.
The HTC 8X is a 4.3-inch phone with a 720p screen, 1.2GHz chip and 9-megapixel camera, facing off against the Lumia 920. The 820 squares up to the HTC 8S, with its 1GHz chip and 5-megapixel camera.
We're look forward to the new Lumias, even after Nokia was forced to apologise for faking video supposedly taken with the phone's camera.
How much would you pay for the Nokia Lumia 920 or 820? Tell me your thoughts in the comments or on our Facebook page.
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anonymous 28 September, 2012 10:27
Unresearched article, you can find the 920 on websites RIGHT NOW for £469.99
anonymous 28 September, 2012 10:33
The HTC 8X on Amazon (as per the CNET link) is now priced at £399.99, so either the Lumia 920 is priced wrongly, or it's way over-priced. It'll be interesting to see what Samsung's W8 offerings are priced at, because if HTC and Nokia really are so far apart, and Samsung come in closer to HTC, then Nokia are shooting themselves in the foot. With a machine gun.
anonymous 28 September, 2012 10:43
max £450! I really want Lumia 920 but if it's top pricey might have to get the 8X
shauney3 28 September, 2012 10:46
In the real world (ie, not on website comments page) I have heard no interest in these Windows phones, people who are buying new phones aren't even considering them. So a £520 price tag seems fair to make up some money from lack of sales I suppose...
CaptainPicard 28 September, 2012 11:20
^ Agree. The original Lumia's weren't as popular as the Samsung Galaxy range or even phones running Bada OS, and its ridiculous to price these phones above the price of the S3.
Hamzah Younus 28 September, 2012 11:35
It's because of the lack of competition.
anonymous 28 September, 2012 11:35
Umm > http://www.digital-phone.co.uk/product/nokia-lumia-920-black.aspx
469 anybody? I think that's reasonable to be honest and like the iPhone it will only take a person to buy it on contract to get them in the WP8 Ecosystem, combine that with the Windows 8 release for PC and tablets and that can possibly draw them in for further handset sales, game on!
WP8 could be the underdog!
anonymous 28 September, 2012 11:38
The last nail in the coffin for Nokia it seems. The price is far too high, especially with a comparible (though slightly lower on specs) HTC is priced at £399. Apple can command those prices not just because their phones are decent spec wise, but they have become a fashion accessory.
Android has the majority market share, not apple, and with the S3 priced at under £450 and the S4 on the way on a proven platform (WP8 is a relative unknown for most consumers) who in their right mind would make the switch to the Nokia 920.
These first WP8 phones need to be priced aggresively to draw consumers in, but I expect most will be put off by the hefty price tag. At £400-450 it would be worth the risk of switching to a new platform, but at £520, no thanks, I'll be sticking with android.
anonymous 28 September, 2012 11:54
Again a badly veiled go at your so called beloved OS. £520 (with added £3) is a speculative figure based on what?? Prices in Russia which are usually more expensive than the UK have the 920 selling for £463? Also below £500 in Germany and other EU counties.
You say your not anti windows or this site isn`t anti windows/pro Apple but you sure go about backing that up in a strange way!!Change the record please.
Meleagru 28 September, 2012 11:56
The price doesn't seem relevant at this point in time because the software still isn't released. If they can provide great support between multiple devices, it could be great. But having used Windows for a long time, I'm reserving judgement about this. One thing that troubles me is the security problems you could get with this phone. There are armies of hackers well versed in exploiting the most popular OS.
anonymous 28 September, 2012 12:09
What hasto be taken in to account is residual values, a 3 year old iPhone would be worth substantially more than an android phone, granted the win8 phones are yet to be tested in the second hand market but I would doubt if they would fair any better than an android device( ESP when the inevitable cheaper variants come to market)
anonymous 28 September, 2012 12:18
I would not mind paying so much for the device...the phone as such is brilliant...according to me it's perhaps the best looking phone packed with amazing hardware...but the problem is that it's got windows..with extremely limited number of apps (and expensive too) I don't feel the phone is complete...if the phone was running anroid I would have perhaps got it for that price but with windows in it...I don't c it happening
wahwah 28 September, 2012 12:25
It has to be cheaper than the iphone to have any chance , so I will wait till it is truly available to buy before I make my mind up , but I am finished with Apple , and I dont want a Samesung so long as it turns out to be as good as the specs and looks suggest , it will likely be my next phone .
anonymous 28 September, 2012 12:32
Any other tech website will tell you that the Russian prices are notoriously high, and should not be regarded as a benchmark for anywhere else. The German and Italian prices are substantially lower, and Nokia may be leaking dosh but they are not entirely suicidal.
I'll go for £470, although £400 for this beast would convert a lot of people and give WP8 a healthier future.
And Rich - you know better than to claim this without official announcements from Nokia UK, but well played if you can spook Nokia into saying something about British pricing and release dates! :)
anonymous 28 September, 2012 12:53
If the cheapest 16GB IPhone 5 is £530 and the 16GB HTC 8X is £400 then the 32GB Lumia 920 should be about £450 if it is to be competitive. The Nokia bosses may foolishly think they are competing against the IPhone 5 and not its competitors, which would be a mistake.
anonymous 28 September, 2012 13:23
Personally I am viewing this price as reliable as a 'Before' price at a sale in Dixons. Since networks have exclusive agreements then this price is as likely to be high just to make the contract prices seem that much more pleasant.
anonymous 28 September, 2012 15:09
No removable SD card. Why bother at all.
anonymous 28 September, 2012 15:28
Been an iphone 4S owner.Getting bored by IOS.Search and google the Lumia 920 for a while.So many positive review(spec wise & comparison).Thought of giving the lumia 920 and windows phone 8 a try.After nokia reveal the lumia 920 price,will probably wait for the SGS 4.Nokia will lose a costumer.Personally think many is like myself,very eager at beginning,very dissapointed with the price.I know lumia 920 is a top notch phone hardware wise but windows ecosystem have yet to prove worthy.
anonymous 28 September, 2012 16:22
i dnt even know a single person that uses a windows phone meaning their not popular with consumers. nokia was the only phone that you could get for cheap prices. the fact that they think they can match their prices to such phones like the s3, iphone & htc one x is ridiculous and it'll only end up putting them in debt.
anonymous 28 September, 2012 16:40
Now that's seriously overpriced.
I'm not touching any of these phones until the Lumia 920 price drops to £350.
anonymous 28 September, 2012 17:58
Loved Nokia, loved my Symbian phone. Put up with Lumia 800 for 6 months. Hated it. Constantly being surprised at what it couldn't do compared to the Symbian. Gave up and bought an Android at same price range. Constantly surprised at what it can do.
anonymous 28 September, 2012 18:03
Windows Phone Lover?? More like a fanboy of Apple or Android.
Compare the 920's price to 32GB phones not the 16GB ones. If you still think it's expensive, and even disregarding the awesome PureView/PureMotion HD+, just consider the phone's full Microsoft Office Suite.
I wonder how much Rick is paid to write this crappy/misleading article.
anonymous 28 September, 2012 19:19
I think £520 seem to be a resonable price..
S3 first came out its also around 500-550 also...
Iphone?Even worst
Btw,I'm form Malaysia
anonymous 28 September, 2012 19:21
I am buying it as I like my stuff to be exclusive like my ferrari F1. Dont see many people driving them...
anonymous 28 September, 2012 19:29
In 2 years time when my cotracts up. my Lumia 920 will still be working and looking new. Unlike some other phones I could mention, and that beautiful design and all that tec packed inside. Worth every penny. Best new phone out bar none. Nokia you have sold 1 and it would be great if i'm the only one with this phone. I will never follow the crowd.
anonymous 28 September, 2012 19:58
This phone kicked the crap out of the S3 and the iphone 5. I think it should be more expensive...
anonymous 28 September, 2012 20:13
I don't want what everybody else has got so I will be buying the Lumia 920. Best phone I have seen to date. At that price a bargain and maps work, it won't scratch, use with my gloves, wireless charging and most of all, well made. Oh i can read the display in bright light and that camera with pureview is the best by far. Oh i forgot it also has the best display..Nokia you should charge more..
anonymous 28 September, 2012 22:32
a phone that is actually worth the price tag!!! this phone has more leading tech than anything else on the market and yet its still £125 cheaper that the equivalent 32gb iPhone. also IOS is getting its fair share of criticism this year so its impossible to slag off windows 8 when it hasnt even been released. only thing i can add is bye bye iphone 4 and hello lumia 920 :D
anonymous 28 September, 2012 23:48
This is a 32GB phone people, if you want 32GB from Apple you'll pay £599 and get a phone with lower screen res and PPI, an inferior camera and a touchscreen that is less sensitive.
You can use the 920 with any implement you have to hand, below is a video of it being used with a spoon and fork.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQwzYtKSBD0
Then there's the camera, which is the best for any phone right now. This phone excels in so many ways and yet it is still not good enough? What should Nokia do, work for free and sell it for no profit? that's hardly going to do much for their share price is it.
anonymous 29 September, 2012 00:30
Samsung GS4 is not coming anytime soon at all. It's just a rumor. The Lumia 920 is far better than the competition and less expensive than iphone 5 and Windows phone 8 will belong to an ecosystem of the biggest software maker, so I consider the NL920 as best option to take. That phone is a superior product.
1453 29 September, 2012 01:15
I definitely agree with most of you guys! The Lumia 920 for more than 500 quid and Nokia will lose this round for sure! And I'm afraid that they just can not risk it (again!)! They have to be aggressive here!!!
An amazing hardware + innovative OS = game changer!
let's hope for the best!
Ryan Simmons 29 September, 2012 02:11
A few things: first of all, please actually wait until the prices over here are officially announced before going on a rant about how expensive they are. Picking and choosing converted prices from other countries -does not- count because the markets are not all equal. Secondly, you can't just assume that Windows phone 8 is too expensive just because a phone has a high price. The GS3 was highly priced at launch, but that doesn't make android too expensive. Thirdly, it's a flagship phone, for christ sake. It's got a top end processor, top end screen, first-of-it's-kind camera that's better than all of it's competitors, and 32GB of storage. Nothing about it is cheap. The only way they'd get a low price on it, would be to take a big chunk out of their profits, which would be stupid considering the losses they've made the last few quarters.
Besides, don't most people buy their phones on contract?
anonymous 29 September, 2012 08:38
I own a Lumia 800 & had it for a year now & wouldn't pay £5.30 never mind £530. Windows is a waste of time. As for style, if you think a phone looking like a childs toy is smart well that shows your mantality. Need get back to Android, never should have listened to the hype & switched.
anonymous 29 September, 2012 09:50
can't wait to get the Lumia 920. Time to ditch my iPhone 4 and promblematic control button . Lumia 920 looks great in the ads - camera and W8 the key reasons for my switch .
anonymous 29 September, 2012 12:07
These prices are only buy outright prices, NOT contract prices
Mark Anderson 29 September, 2012 12:15
"I own a Lumia 800 & had it for a year now"
That's funny since it's only been out for 10 months. Back under your bridge, eh?
As for pricing, I'd pay about £470 it so, if this is the price, then I'll wait a few months as I'm happy enough with the 800 anyway.
anonymous 29 September, 2012 12:27
So £530 for a Nokia Lumia is too expensive but £699 for iPhone5 is fine...!?!?
Dan
anonymous 29 September, 2012 13:16
People buy iPhones on ecosystem, they buy Nokia on specs. Notice none of the iPhone comments talk about specs, people are willing to pay a premium for an ecosystem that works and is proven. All of the Nokia comments, 32 gig this, pureview that, oh yeah weak unproven ecosystem? We"LL overlook it. Completely different demographics. a few of the commenters here said it best, they want something unique that nobody else has....good, cause that's what you're gonna get with that phone and ecosystem.
anonymous 29 September, 2012 13:22
So... the Lumia 920 is more technically advanced than an iPhone, and is cheaper than an iPhone... what's the problem again?
anonymous 29 September, 2012 16:00
It quite fat, this phone, isn't it? I would have thought that with all time Nokia has taken to get this ready they could have engineered it better and made it thinner.
anonymous 29 September, 2012 17:49
99% of people will not buy it at that price. Still Win8 has far less apps as compared to android. people pay more for OS and app as compared to hardware. That's the sole reason why android phones are so popular, even they are not solid built. Its OS that sells. If Nokia adopts android, i am sure in a year they will out sale Samsung easily. Until win8 didn't establish, why take risk at such price. if win8 wants to establish, get a nice price tag. Otherwise dooms day is coming. what Nokia is doing, is nothing more than suicide.
jepjepp 29 September, 2012 21:39
I have no problem with the speculated prices whatsoever.I work hard and I deserve the best, Nokia Lumia 920. Nokia Maps is the best in the world.Look at apple's decision to ditch their partner maps.The best screen,the best design,the best camera,Nokia City View, MS Office, more than enough of useful apps,years of sexyness and functionality.My SG2 will end up in mobile recycling.
anonymous 30 September, 2012 07:41
Reply to MARK ANDERSON, ok not exactly a year but bloody feels like it, if not more.
Your mommy still putting your name tags in your clothes for ya. P**CK.
Mark Anderson 30 September, 2012 08:56
@anonymous
Aww.... did I hurt the poor troll's feelings? Cry me a river.
anonymous 30 September, 2012 12:31
I really want this phone and hope it lives up to my expectations. However, it needs to be sub-£400 for me to bite the bullet.
georg55 30 September, 2012 19:23
The trolls are out for NFC,332 PPI,wireless charging,best camera in class,my lumia 800 still looks like new after 10months,sky drive I would pay £489 for lumina 920,but will get free upgrade in April when my contract is up.I agree with Mark A,luminas are good phones
anonymous 30 September, 2012 21:20
I saw a classic Nokia trick but this is OUT!! That's why Nokia is OUT!! This is too stupid classic. Set high price and drop later will kill your loyal customers. And people who want to buy may wait until the price drop, sometimes they change their mind while they are waiting. This is not an age of Nokia 8800 which Nokia is dominating the mobile market. This day you slow, eat dust. New products from other company will steal your customers.
That's why people love Apple!! First to buy, your product will live for year and they will never betray you by price drop for year. Next year, you still in the trend for same body as S model and only about $100-150 drop for unlock model.
For Lumia 900 unlock opening price around $700 now about year, not even a year you can find it as low as $400 in online store (drop $300). And also you cannot upgrade to Windows Phone 8. Great!! Microsoft and Nokia they are partner right? Didn't they discuss the spec for WP8?
I am consider buying Lumia 820 since I want a midrange one, I research a lot on this phone but after price came out, I change my mind and will wait for Windows Phone 8X from HTC.
820 spec of camera is much lower than 920 (no BSI and OSI with 0.7 less megapixel at back, also 0.3 mpixel front camera) you can say it is almost equal to 900 camera spec and Display is also from 900 (4.3 SAMOLED+). Few things that 820 beat 900 are CPU, RAM and OS.
I can say 820 is an direct upgrade of 900. And Lumia 900 is currently around $400.
So, 820 is a MIDRANGE phone (with High-end price)
Expect price of 920 = $800 and 820 = $640, this is too expensive!! 820 is almost a 900 UPGRADE!! so around $500 is reasonable.
I don't iphone5 so i have to find an alternative, if it is this price i will go for Windows Phone 8x from HTC
anonymous 1 October, 2012 11:28
Love these people saying the Lumia doesnt do what you want it to? Other than being the fastest most practical phone around i dunno. City drive is one of the best free apps on any platform! no need for shazam as it is built into the phone. Voice activation before suri was around. My lumia 800 constantly outperforms my wifes iphone 4 at just about every task and is easily the best looking phone on the market. Iphone is a dated design circa 2006 the Samsungs are just way too much plastic for my liking. I will be on the 920 like white on rice once it hits £399 with accessories!
anonymous 1 October, 2012 12:37
"99% of people will not buy it at that price". - Truly the worst made up statistic.
anonymous 1 October, 2012 15:10
"99% of people will not buy it at that price"
80% Decide to wait for price drop. 19% Decide for other brands.
40% May switch to HTC, Andriod and Apple for the time being. Now 59% Switch!!
31% Reach expectation price!! YES!! but 20% feel phone little bit outdate!
11% Agree to buy LUMIA 920 but Windows announce no WP9 upgrade due to un-support hardware , you only get WP8.8 with visual things.
Now people who want to buy Lumia 920 drop to 4%....
Yes, current Windows Phone market share is around 4%... Well done!! Btw why i am in that 4% so sad.
anonymous 4 October, 2012 14:20
This is a 32GB phone, so even if it was £520 it is still £80 cheaper than the inferior iPhone 5.
anonymous 26 October, 2012 12:05
I normally do not bother posting on articles like this but this is particularly badly written and poorly researched. The entire premise of the article is wrong. The RRP might be anything but the fact is that it is available cheaper almost everywhere.
Poor show.
anonymous 7 November, 2012 10:44
I don't own a smart phone but was thinking of getting one, I hoped to get a Nokia as I like the WP operating system, but that's ridiculously expensive, the company's in trouble and they need to re establish themselves. How c and I'm sentimental about Nokia and don't want to see them fail. How can they expect people to pay near iphone money for their products when they are nowhere near as established? The new Nexus 4's will be £239 (8GB) and £279 (16GB) sim free from Google, it's a no brainer get the Google phone, it'll do practically everything the Lumia will for almost half the price. I own shares in Nokia too, I don't want to see them fail but are their products as desirable as apples tpo command the same price ? I don't think so....plonkers!
anonymous 14 November, 2012 07:21
Live Tiles vs Dead Tiles U/I ?
Man these Windows 8 phones are ALL gone. The Luminas are out all across the USA, Italy, France and China. But I just started looking at the HTC 8X - same thing - St Pete FL, San Jose CA, Chicago IL, Atlanta GA, Denver CO ... it doesn't matter - gone. (Check for yourself with the ATT.COM in-store availability checker).
Now, I find out today from ATT that my pre-order Red Lumina 920 (ordered on 11/08) won't ship to me maybe until 11/20 ("and we cannot promise that").
Windows Phone 8 has been long awaited and Microsoft will be handsomely rewarded for putting their effort into this.
At this point you now finally have a choice - a "Live Tile" U/I, or a "Dead Tile" U/I.
I hope they get the supply worked out but frankly after the past Windows Phone experiences, I can't blame them for under-estimating their own success.