Once in a blue moon, when the stars are aligned and the sun shines through Stonehenge at precisely the right angle, no fewer than three mobile operating systems will receive major updates at roughly the same time. Reader, today we stand at one such holy juncture.
Apple's iOS platform has recently been upgraded to iOS 5, while the latest version of Android, Ice Cream Sandwich, is about to explode on to the smart phone scene. Meanwhile Mango, the newest iteration of Microsoft's Windows Phone platform has also dropped from the tree.
So which OS should you buy into? Let's meet the lordly devices who have raised their banners in service of these three operating systems and ride into battle as their champions.
Apple iPhone 4S
Proudly bearing the iOS 5 insignia on its pennant, the iPhone 4S is a stately knight indeed, garbed in armour of metal and glass and wielding an 8-megapixel camera, a nippy A5 processor and Siri, the voice-controlled robot squire. The 4S is the direct descendant of the mighty iPhone 4, but it looks very similar to its royal father -- is this new device a rightful heir, or a pretender to the throne?
Samsung Galaxy Nexus
The standard-bearer for the whole Android operating system, the Samsung Galaxy Nexus is the biggest phone in the tournament, touting a massive 4.65-inch hi-def screen and a 5-megapixel camera. Seated astride a 1.2GHz dual-core-powered destrier, this fearsome contender wears the favour of Ice Cream Sandwich, the latest version of Android. Garbed in grey chainmail plastic, will it be the knight to unseat the iPhone?
Nokia Lumia 800
Since house Nokia bent the knee to Microsoft and swore fealty to the Windows Phone operating system, the realm has eagerly awaited the arrival of the Nokia Lumia 800. This handsome young outsider's shield is decorated with an 8-megapixel camera, and Mango -- the latest edition of Windows Phone. Can the Lumia 800's attractive design win back its family's lost honour?
Which of these phones deserves to sit on the throne, and which should end up spiked on a castle wall? Let's pit them against each other to find out. For when you play the game of phones, you win, or you die...
Ease of use
What use is a great new phone if you can't figure out how to use the blasted thing? None, that's what. Luckily, none of these mobiles are navigational nightmares. But some are still winners.
The iPhone 4S is running iOS 5, which almost everyone on the planet knows how to use, thanks to those ubiquitous Apple TV ads that show you how it works. Apps are tiled in neat grids of 16 on homescreens, and you swipe between these, tapping on apps you want to open. Double-tapping the 4S' home button brings up a taskbar that shows you all the apps you've got running so you can quickly hop between them.
And that's about it. Utterly simple, and attractive to boot. But it's not perfect -- moving between the apps you've got running often takes longer than it should, and diving into the settings feels like rappelling down into the seventh circle of Hell. Why are almost all the options you need hidden in the cryptic General tab? And why does it take so long to do something as simple as change Wi-Fi network?
The Samsung Galaxy Nexus has the 4S beat in many areas -- its Ice Cream Sandwich software looks to make Android much more usable, packing features like a persistent on-screen button that stacks all the apps you've got running across the screen. You can swipe up or down to see all of them, and swipe to the side on individual app windows to dismiss that app. It's a better way of handling multi-tasking.
But in other areas Android is still harder to use than rival operating systems. Google's robot-powered platform grants you immense freedom, but the price of that freedom is that you will find occasionally find yourself buried in a labyrinthine menu system, navigating subfolders within your phone's microSD card.
For pure eye-friendly ease-of-use, the Nokia Lumia 800 wins out, thanks to Windows Phone Mango. This operating system looks the business, sporting colourful tiles sewn together on a single homescreen, and impressive Facebook and Twitter integration. Each tile on the homescreen represents an individual app, and many of them fizz with activity, with live updates keeping you in the loop without you having to tire yourself out pressing anything.
Dive deeper into the menu system and you'll get more options, but it rarely gets more complicated to find your way around, with gorgeous menu transitions keeping your eyes happy throughout. We also like the ability to sort contacts into groups and pin those groups to the homescreen -- handy for keeping an eye on groups of friends and group messaging.
It's very simple. That simplicity might put you off if you love having a tonne of options at your disposal, but we think Windows Phone offers a great user interface that's easy to get to grips with.
Ease of use victor: Nokia Lumia 800
Apps
Windows Phone might deliver when it comes to a clear, intuitive interface, but when it comes to apps, the most you're likely to find in the Marketplace is a solitary tumbleweed, playing Doodle Jump on its iPhone.
There just aren't very many desirable apps and games on Windows Phone yet, with developers preferring to build apps for iOS and Android, where successful apps can earn their creators big money. As such, if you're really into downloadable goodies, the Nokia Lumia 800 isn't the best phone to go for.
The Galaxy Nexus fares better because there are loads of apps for Ice Cream Sandwich. Thousands of the blighters in fact, and many of them are free. But it can be difficult to sort the wheat from the chaff.
Because Google doesn't force apps through an approval process, there's an overwhelming amount of rubbish floating about on the Android Market, and its hard to find the nuggets of pure metal in among the dross. The default Market app doesn't help matters, because it's often confusing, and hard to see which apps are worth bothering with.
There's also a serious dearth of decent games on the Android Market. So while the Samsung Galaxy Nexus offers loads of apps, it's not the best choice if you're seriously addicted to apps.
The iPhone 4S wins this round -- while it has its flaws, it's easily the best operating system for apps. There are thousands of great apps, including loads of beautifully-presented, addictive games. Prices are reasonable, purchasing and installing is dead simple and the App Store app is dead easy to use.
App quality across iOS is generally high as well, thanks to Apple's strict approval process. That means you'll miss out on fun apps of somewhat dubious legality (such as game emulators) that are on Android, but we think for most people the sheer quality on offer more than outweighs this inconvenience. But that leads us to...
Apps victor: iPhone 4S
Freedom and general tinkering
The iPhone 4S might dominate in the apps stakes, but if you're a true geek who likes to take your gadgets apart to see what makes them tick, it'll leave you cold. Unless you want to jailbreak your phone, you'll have to play by Apple's rules. And that means only playing with Apple-approved apps and minimal customisation.
That's fine for some, but we know there are hundreds of gadgeteers out there who won't rest until they've forced their phone to make popcorn, change the TV channel and deliver soothing backrubs, all while running 17 operating systems and ordering pizza. If you're titillated by tinkering, the iPhone 4S will leave you, er, un-titillated.
Sadly Windows Phone is much the same. We mentioned above how easy it is to use, but the flipside of that ease of use is that your options are limited if you want to stray from the path Microsoft has laid out for you. As such, the Nokia Lumia 800 will frustrate those who like to muck about with their mobiles.
Android, on the other hand, offers all this in spades. Frustrated by the default keyboard? Download another one, there's loads to choose from. Want to funky up your homescreen? Download Launcher Pro. Want to play old-school games with a PS3 controller? Tricky, but certainly possible. This category is a no-brainer.
Tinkering victor: Samsung Galaxy Nexus
Hardware
While the major difference between these three blowers is the operating system that powers them, it wouldn't be fair not to mention the hardware in question.
The iPhone 4S offers speed that far outstrips its predecessor, thanks to an A5 chip that's performed very well in our benchmark tests. We're also incredibly impressed with the 8-megapixel camera, which easily outpaced the Nokia Lumia 800 in our camera test, and shoots 1080p video to boot.
The 3.5-inch screen is the same panel you'd find on the old iPhone 4, but looks absolutely stunning nonetheless -- extremely crisp and sharp.
The Samsung Galaxy Nexus, meanwhile, has a lower-resolution camera than either of its competitors, offering up a measly 5-megapixels. It feels very snappy though, thanks to a 1.2GHz dual-core processor, and it has a big, beautiful 4.65-inch screen that boasts a stonking 720x1,280-pixel resolution.
Unlike many leading Android phones, the Galaxy Nexus doesn't have expandable storage -- you're stuck with the 16GB or 32GB of internal storage. That doesn't disadvantage it in this comparison, however, as neither of its competitors have a microSD slot either. The Lumia 800 has 16GB of storage, while the iPhone 4S offers 16GB, 32GB or 64GB, depending how much you pay.
The Nokia Lumia 800 has an 8-megapixel camera, though as we mentioned before it doesn't look like it's going to beat the snapper on the iPhone 4S, or other great mobiles such as the Samsung Galaxy S2. Still, a 1.4GHz processor and a screen with a very impressive viewing angle make this a decent bit of kit.
Choosing the best of these three phones in terms of hardware is tricky -- they each have their strengths and weaknesses. We're calling it a draw.
Hardware victor: Draw
Conclusion
Three brave phones enter the tournament, but which is still in the saddle?
The Nokia Lumia 800 might have a pretty face, and we're big fans of Windows Phone, but we can't recommend it yet when it's so bereft of apps. We hereby decree that the Lumia 800 be stripped of lands and titles. If it gets more apps to its name we might reconsider, but for now it must be banished.
Which leaves us with the iPhone 4S and the Samsung Galaxy Nexus, and wouldn't you know, it's an impossible choice. If you're a prolific downloader of music and apps, the iPhone 4S is the clear option.
But not everyone is so keen on apps -- for some people the freedom to experiment with their gadgets is more valuable. The Galaxy Nexus provides those thrills in spades, and the improvements in Ice Cream Sandwich look set to somewhat demystify the oft-baffling Android interface.
There's nothing in it -- to choose between these two mobiles you must look not to respectable technology websites staffed by handsome writers, but to your own heart.
Overall victor: Joint winners -- iPhone 4S and Samsung Galaxy Nexus
Is our judgement fair? Should the Lumia 800 have won, or is the Galaxy Nexus a million times better than anything else out there? Inform us in the comments below, or on our Facebook page.



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Peter Hudson 1 November, 2011 14:25
What is going on with these Vs reviews.
The way I read it, each won a category, then the last was a draw.
Doesnt that mean an overall draw between all three
Rich Trenholm 1 November, 2011 14:54
It's not about keeping score, it's about weighing up what's important
anonymous 1 November, 2011 15:14
Is there any consistency in how Luke counts on his fingers?
anonymous 1 November, 2011 15:36
Game of Thrones on the brain when you wrote this? Entertaining and unbiased reporting there.
I think the article does a good job of pointing out the differences, but the advent of Siri isn't stressed enough here. Sure, Android has voice recognition software, but it's nothing compared to what Siri can do. If you're calling it a draw without really ever bringing up what Siri brings to the table, then I think the advantage goes to the 4s.
anonymous 1 November, 2011 15:40
@Rich: Then what is the point in giving a "winner" per category? If it was just about what is important, do a nice unbiased conclusion and summarise ... instead of pretending all the way through the article you care about each individual section.
To me and others, ease of use is very important, which would put the Windows phone as a winner .. so how do you guys base "what's important" to declare an overall winner?
anonymous 1 November, 2011 15:55
i am between the nokia lumia 800 and the Nexus, my heart says go with the Nokia, my brain says go with the Nexus.
my only reason NOT to get the Nexus is im concerned its just too BIG, and that it will not feel good in my hand, also i am concerned it will not have the best build quality. i expect the Nokia is far more robust due to its design.
The look of the Lumia 800 is winning me over, but im being tempted away by the beautifull Nexus screen and tinkerability....
Bantu 1 November, 2011 16:11
@anonymous and Siri. I just don't think voice tech is "there" yet to be honest. Siri works really well at interpreting what i want it to do (better than google voice commands that's true!), but if you are dictating a text it's a draw between the 2 and they both still fail in 2 important categories: 1. it is still quicker to do what you need "manually" (e.g. set alarm, send text, call, search web, get weather); 2. the big one, both become useless when out of internet range (underground, overseas, etc).
as for comparison: i dream of a world where i can get the beauty that is the Lumia 800, complete with the WP7 launcher, running on Android (or at the very least with an Android app player a la RIM's Playbook).
anonymous 1 November, 2011 16:15
The reviewer seems to be 12 years old.
Everything is not about apps..
anonymous 1 November, 2011 16:16
Windows Phone bereft of apps? I think there are over 35,000 at the moment.
anonymous 1 November, 2011 16:25
Ya, compared to apple and android markets which have over 300,000 apps 35,000 is nithing
anonymous 1 November, 2011 16:35
35 000 apps isn't enough? How many mail clients do you really need, or music player, or to-do planners?
anonymous 1 November, 2011 16:37
what you will do with 300000 apps do you have enough money, space and time to have on your phone
anonymous 1 November, 2011 16:45
everything siri can do, you can already do on a phone without talking to it. Siri is not worthless, but not groundbreaking either.
anonymous 1 November, 2011 16:50
Apps...ROFL....How in the world can that be used as the ultimate measuring stick?
This Apps argument is the same one use by Satellite and Cablco's in their marketing. We have 500 channels blah blah blah...when the truth is on avg we only watch 10-15 different channels
Well the same goes for Apps. How man Apps do you actually use?
You pick you media provider based on who has the channels you watch (and best DVR hardware) NOT who has the most channels
They why pick you phone based on which one has the most Apps?
anonymous 1 November, 2011 16:50
Windows phone does lack in aps but it doesn't lack in good apps
anonymous 1 November, 2011 16:55
Seriously Apps again? Ok, instead of talking about the number of Apps on each platform how bout we talk about the quality and usefulness of Apps on each platform? Or better, how bout making a list of all the so called "MUST HAVE" Apps for iOS and Android and lets see if WP can match that list in one from or another?
anonymous 1 November, 2011 17:00
I diagree totally with what you said about apps on Windows Phone. There are LOADS of quality apps and games which you'd know if you use it on a daily basis. The XBOX live titles are amazing and there are loads of them.
It's not about the number of apps either, Microsoft wanted to get away from having to open an app for everything, thats why twitter and facebook are integrated. It just makes things easier
anonymous 1 November, 2011 17:08
Umm.. why on earth did you choose the Nokia Lumia 800 of all Windows Phones out there!!?? The HTC Titan and Samsung Focus S would have been much better choices for such a comparisson.
anonymous 1 November, 2011 17:13
So the lumia has the best design and OS... but because you only have access to 35,000 apps you should forget it?... okay... Ill take my advice elsewhere.
anonymous 1 November, 2011 17:17
It's funny, when Iphone had 30,000 ++ apps.. no one complained that it had lack of apps..
anonymous 1 November, 2011 17:24
Rather odd conclusion in relation to WP7 apps. It is pretty sound on games, and Xbox Live is unique to the platform and many top titles available. Regards other sorts of apps, almost all of what you might actually want are already available. Spotify being one of the last hold outs. How exactly was the comparison done by this reviewer between the various app marketplaces - simply a number count doesn't give the full picture.
anonymous 1 November, 2011 17:28
Counting out WP based on apps isnt fair at all. I currently have 92 apps installed on my Samsung Focus, and I'm not missing anything. Also, the voice commands in Microsoft TellMe are very useful. Agree with the above comment: you should have chosen the Samsung Focus S for the WP comparison.
anonymous 1 November, 2011 17:31
40000 of apps is not enought? Look, WP7 has the best apps and the most used ones. And people will never download more than 100 apps. So WTH? 40000 is enough. WP7 wins
anonymous 1 November, 2011 17:50
It's not all about apps, and anyone who actually gives WP7 a chance will love it. WP7 wins!
garyc2011 1 November, 2011 17:55
Nice Review
I have an (old) 3gs and have been holding off for ICS, and boy does it look sweet !!!!
I just can't w8 to get my old skool emulators running on that baby !!!!! What a screen, and the ability to use games controllers is fantastic !!! & Duke Nuke em !!!!
I did/do still really like apple stuff, my 3gs (updated to ios 5) still runs perfectly and rarely crashed, but its the flexibility of Android to let me do so much more I love.
As for windows phones, yeah total lack of quality apps, have you seen the "games" - 2d cartoon crap, look at
shdowgun coming out soon - awesome !!!!!, plus wp7 will be tied down like apple.
Finally im sure like most people winmo6.5 put me off windows phones for life................I might reconsider If microsoft apologise and give me a new free WP7 phone.....................
On second thoughts though...........nah.....................they can keep it
Adriel623 1 November, 2011 18:09
@garyc2011 you sound so idiotic! You probably haven't seen the games on wp yourself! Why would the platform with the best gaming system in xbox live be filled with crap? Have you even played ilomilo et al? Pure 3d so idk what you're saying. Also MS is the company that has the halo franchise so I'm pretty excited b/c of the potential of what is to come. And are you so retarded that if a company offers you a free phone you wouldnt take it? You have some issues sir.
anonymous 1 November, 2011 18:11
35,000 apps and growing doesn't sound like a 'lack'. Sure, it's not as much as Android or iOS in quantity, but there's tons of quality.
Oh, as for the Doodle Jump comment? Maybe you should have picked a game that ISN'T available on WP7 (and the WP7 version comes with Achievements, for those that care).
anonymous 1 November, 2011 18:21
I can't believe you write off the Windows Phone which has over 35,000 apps and growing by over 1,000 per week. The least you can say is it doesn't have as many as the more mature mobile operating systems and it is gaining momentum.
I don't mind any of the 3 mobile OS your review, they all have pros and cons but you are being way too dismissive based on apps numbers.
Maybe you should consider dismissing Android for the number of viruses on its ecosystem.
anonymous 1 November, 2011 18:41
Funny how a review of a phone does not include call quality as one of the criteria to judge the three phones you compared. I may be old fashioned but I do a fair bit of calling on my phones and I'd like to know which ones offer the best quality. For example, call quality on my Motorola Atrix running Android 2.3.4 is pretty bad. If have to make a critical customer phone call, I use an old Nokia phone from 6 years ago (yes, the non-smart kind) to make my calls - the voice quality is rather poor on the Android. I have not done this experiment on an iPhone.
anonymous 1 November, 2011 18:43
Good to see this effort, but this comparison makes me quite angry though. I'd like some more funded base for all these pointing to a win or loss. You're stating everything like it's a common-known fact, but most feel outdated or bring up questions.
Also, a category like hardware is far too broad. Take the screen apart, since that has all the hype (AMOLED, Clear Black, etc.). Take durability seperate, battery life seperate and processing power (but keep in mind the lightweightness of a platform!) too.
Also, your picture comparison lacks quite a lot of integrity, because there are different shots and angles to compare the phones with. If their sensors don't get the same info to base their processing on, ofcourse your results won't be accurate. It's not the readers fault you didn't get all the same picture frames (+focus!), but they do get a wrong opinion right there.
Then onto my biggest problem with this one. What the ... is wrong with the WP marketplace? That thing has dozens of apps and I can't see what would be missing aside from what is offered there and what's already natively built in. Can you name a specific app (or type, since some are platform dedicated to begin with)? Maybe there's not as much games, but then, the current major titles (angry birds, plants vs zombies) are there already. So that's a minor point, not such a big one as you made it..
Oh, yeah, these things are phones too, what's their call+signal quality? Speaker loudness?
By the way, Siri may seem awesome, but it seems it has a lot of trouble working everywhere, so that kind of fails of being a big plus for me.
I get there's some fanboyism in my comment, but that's mostly because I know what you're missing of the OS & phone, not trying to say it's the best at everything. If you think those parts are rubbish, fine, these things will always stay a bit opinionated, but please take the things about the working structure at heart. CNET lost some credibility here.
anonymous 1 November, 2011 19:00
I have been BB amd was so disappointed with the new (()) that i thought try the Galaxy S2 amd having never liked the IOS UI I took to Android and am debating whether to keep the Galaxy for the next 18 months however am wanting to see the Nexus just in case but love the build and feel of the S2.
On another point I keep hearing about it bein plastic all i can say is have dropped it on concrete twice and you would be hard pressed to tell my wife dropped her IPhone on laminate and it cracked so will stick to the beuatifull to use S2 for now. Speed wise am so impressed hasnt crashed on me something the 9900 did well on. So my recommendation without a doubt is forget Iphone as you get all the Iphone claims to do and more with a standard USB connector plus near enough all the IOS apps are available and are either free or dead cheap with Google+ and Music Beta you will get online storage and unlimited music too boot so who needs ICloud.
anonymous 1 November, 2011 19:00
I love the way Rich comes and tries to fight his case but then gets scared away and doesn't answer anyone elses questions when he knows he is wrong. Bloody fire the whole lot at CNET and take a leaf out of other websites, who give very up-to-date info. I'm off to engadget now
anonymous 1 November, 2011 19:05
i have an old 3gs, which continually crashs, i will not be getting another iphone (unless the 5 is truely awesome). The 4s is a disapointment in my opinion, SIRI isnt going to change the way we use phones, most people just wont use it, the only way i see it as useful, is whilst driving, apart from that most people will be faster doing things the traditional way. also lots of people are saying the cloud drains battery life, another negative with 4s.
Unless your a freak who has no life, and just plays with their phone constantly, nobody needs several hundred apps, i have approx 20 apps on my 3gs, with less than 5 that i actually use regularly. the app point is just absurd, most genuinely useful / succesful apps are already on WP7.
Back to the real topic...
iPhone 4S vs Samsung Galaxy Nexus vs Nokia Lumia 800.
for me Iphone 4S is an expensive no no.
tech wise Galaxy Nexus is the clear, winner, with its screen and ICS.
But i just love the design of the Lumia 800, and suspect its build qulaity will suit me much more.
I think everyone does get overly bogged down with specs.
i doubt there will be much of a noticeable diff between them in terms of speed. especially for general stuff like loading a web page etc.
if the lumia 800 had been a tiny bit bigger with a 4" screen i would go for it, however WP7 dictates a set screen resolution, so i dont even see bigger screens coming untill there is an update beyond MANGO..
i think im going to get the Lumia, and then admire someone elses Nexus screen, which will prob be scratched as they have clumsily dropped it from there hands whilst struggling with it huge bulky width!!
Damien
anonymous 1 November, 2011 19:49
I think it has been said many times by many different people in the comments section that a number of apps do not define a phone. It is simply poor journalism and extreme ignorance to state that because WP7 doesn't have 300,000 or so apps, it cannot complete with the iphone or android. WP7 has enough apps, apps which will actually be used and are essential. What sets WP7 apart is the stylish and fluid metro design, great social integration, live tile updates, very promising games and music capabilities and business element of the office hub. It is also very open to customization. You can pin anything to the home menu, create new hubs and change the look. Also, one should not look at the hardware too much. It is about how effective and fast the OS is and not how many cores the phone has. WP7 doesn't need dual core. It is a shame that some tech journalists are obsessed with specs and apps and fail to see the big picture. WP7 should be given a chance to outshine the competition.
anonymous 1 November, 2011 20:38
30,000 + apps for windows phone seems like a lot, and it has most of the main ones but......
The number of times one of my mates says "oh, have u seen this app on my iphone?" - and I go "cool, I'd like that too" only to find it's not available is a bit frustrating.
Still, having used WP7 for a year now I can see what a big effort MS is making to bring it up to scratch. The app market will continue to grow and my frustrations will shrink.
anonymous 1 November, 2011 21:02
STOP TALKING ABOUT APPS!
ITS about the overall features of the smartphones, ease of use, quick, simple yet beautiful (NOKIA LUMIA 800)
anonymous 1 November, 2011 21:09
CNet should really allow its readers to rate the stories on their site, maybe even use that during the writers annual review. Maybe these overly biased childish stories will go away.
anonymous 1 November, 2011 22:47
Reviews like this kills nokia lumia.. Maybe you guys shouldn't be doing any reviews! cause you know no ****!!
anonymous 1 November, 2011 23:17
at £399 the lumia is *BADLY* overpriced when you consider its meagre processing power and lack of storage, add to that its small screen and lack of forward facing camera, £199 would have been enough.
you are right about the apps too, my friend went from android to a windows phone and he cant get skype or the bbc and google maps, he regrets rushing into buying a windows phone without checking apps first
me - im going for the nexus !!!!!!!!! what a hot phone it is
anonymous 1 November, 2011 23:40
I am bored of people talking about apps, it is a non-issue.
All the hype on Siri, get a life. If you want reliable non-cloud based voice recognition try vlingo on android. It even recognises British accents! And yes you can also ask it stupid questions like 'what is your favourite colour' if you are that way inclined.
Since when was a 5 mega-pixel camera low res? That is the dumbest comparison, the quality should be the test, would you really want to print out a photo taken on your phone bigger than 11" x 14"? Have you seen the low light performance on the GN? Awesome. I'd rather have the excellent quality 5 than a mediocre 8.
For me it is the GN, a close-ish second the Nokia and as I am not a simpleton I would never even consider the iPhone. If holding your finger down on the screen and choosing a widget to add to your (great looking and completely customisable) home screen is too complicated for you then you are a simpleton and you should get your spoon feeding from the iPhone.
TexteaOnline.com 2 November, 2011 00:53
WP has 35,000+ apps and each has a try; others platforms as iPhone have 300,000+ but half are lite version so of the full apps so in reality iPhone has like 150,000+ then take the 100,000 fart apps, todo apps, etc and you see all platforms have fewer than 100 K usefull apps.
anonymous 2 November, 2011 00:56
WP7 is just simply lousy. I don't if it is a new OS to the market or not. As a consumer, I will use the phone which satisfy my needs. WP7 simply can't. Apps wise are simply too few and I'm talking about good apps as compared to other platforms. ie, where is the official Dropbox app? Don't tell me about SkyDrive because it doesn't allow me to upload other file types. And worst of all, its maps and local scouts do not work well outside USA. That's sucks!
Android is still my preferred choice. Android FTW!
anonymous 2 November, 2011 01:01
WP7 apps are simply too expensive as compared to other platforms. Games are mostly from Live titles and costing a bomb! Why games like Angry Birds are so expensive when they are free on Android!!
Yes, WP7 has lots of apps too. But where are the official apps? Even the Facebook app is not from Facebook itself, is from MS rather. And not to mention that some apps are not working on older 1st gen of WP7 phones. Fragmentation starting to appear already for WP7? Lumia looks nice, but no tethering?! No FFC? Soon it will be obsolete by the OS itself just like others.
Rather stick with Android or iPhone instead, although there are lots of thrash app, by at least we have MORE choices than on the WP7.
anonymous 2 November, 2011 01:06
"STOP TALKING ABOUT APPS!
ITS about the overall features of the smartphones, ease of use, quick, simple yet beautiful (NOKIA LUMIA 800)"
oh please!! We are talking about SMART PHONES. If you do not like to have apps, don't use a smart phones please. Get the old Nokia models instead.
What so ease of use about WP7 anyways? It is so difficult to launch an app from the home screen than putting all the information under 1 roof in People hub? Yet in the end, you will need to filter the messages by different channels? Now I can't even log in with different WLM accounts on WP7 because I'm stuck with only the main WLM acct which I registered with.
Live tiles? Nothing but gimmicks! How many times I missed comments on my wall because I do not notice that the ME tiles flips and there are no bloody notifications at all, unlike the Android or iPhone! Hate those flipping effects. Totally unpractical.
anonymous 2 November, 2011 01:27
Is everything really about apps? Really?
Apps are important to a smartphone platform, but you need to wipe the stars out of your eyes and look at the real picture. Which marketplaces have good growth and a collection of high quality and profile apps. The WP7 marketplace is growing faster and shows higher downloads rates per app than iPhone and Android, and that stat should grow in the coming months.
anonymous 2 November, 2011 05:12
Um, why did you change the Galaxy Nexus background to the ugliest background I've ever seen for this review?
Doesn't exactly show off the HD display to have those ridiculously huge black & white pixels added to all your previews of a phone with...much improved pixel density and color quality. Were you just trying to cancel that out, Luke?
Mark Anderson 2 November, 2011 07:16
LOL! The Lumia has best ease of use and you judge the winner on number of apps? No wonder no-one takes CNET seriously.
Let's put it into perspective, shall we? Windows Phone has 35,000 apps and covers all of the main ones that anyone downloads. The fact that iOS and Android have hundreds of thousands is irrelevant because.... and take your time to absorb this point.... they're all clones of other apps or rubbish that hardly anyone cares about. You might, just might have the odd exception but that's it.
Apps do not matter any more. Get that through your head.
anonymous 2 November, 2011 09:18
@ Mark Anderson
"Apps do not matter any more. Get that through your head."
Why buy a smartphone then ???????????????
Maybe you are on the wrong forum
I popped over to wmpoweruser.com and they are all raging and frothing at the mouth at this article, alot of infighting going on
http://wmpoweruser.com/cnet-prize-fight-iphone-4s-vs-samsung-galaxy-nexus-vs-nokia-lumia-800/
MS Fanbois really cant stand being 1.7% of the market, it makes them rage hard.
Even though they KNOW WP7 is missing lots of apps, they try to tell us "you dont need them" or "your a freak" if u need a certain app, or the "app is irrelevant" or that old chestnut "that app is coming soon".....bunch of loosers
GaryC
anonymous 2 November, 2011 09:29
Wouldn't be seen dead with a Windows Phone.
I am backing Android because they excel in what I myself believe in. Freedom and the ability to roll out it's services FREE to customers. M$ charges to use it Word processor, Operating system etc etc. Google doesn't and instead makes its money from charging other big company's for advertising.
Some people just get all excited over the fancy bells and whistles. That's fine, you stay of your Apple/M$ leash and get whipped about.
Android is extremely easy to use. Plus I can turn it into an apple or windows phone if I desire. It gives the chance to talented people to create and evolve. Some of the launchers are amazing and then really bring new dimension to the phone.
Seriously hope Nokia and Microsoft fail.
anonymous 2 November, 2011 11:25
Is it just me or does CNET always do their best to sit on the fence in these kind of articles?
I think it's pretty clear that the Nexus is the best phone, not to mention that the S2 is probably better than the rest too. This isn't even counting Motorola and HTC devices.
anonymous 2 November, 2011 11:46
"Apps do not matter any more. Get that through your head."
Why buy a smartphone then ???????????????
Please smartphone can be of great service with 40,000 proper app. The point is not that apps do not matter anymore but that any of those platforms have good amount of quality apps to choose from. Is that so difficult to understand? I am not a fanboy of anyone of this platform and I don't like closed systems like Windows or Apple but I am fair and recognise the point that excluding the Lumia from a recommendation just because the reviewer thinks there are no apps is complete nonsense.
anonymous 2 November, 2011 12:32
i have just ordered a Nokia Lumia 800 in Cyan through Orange on a business Tarrif, get in there! decission done!
anonymous 2 November, 2011 13:03
Historically Open platforms win over Walled Garden Platforms.
The trend is for phones to become full blown hand held computers (MS and Apple don't want this as its damages Computer sales, already in poorer areas of the world "the phone" IS their computer, for the developed world phone are only 2~3 years off having the CPU power to be a laptop replacement (With external screen...))
The platform that is widest spread will have the widest comparability and software support (EG Linux vs MAC vs Windows...)
Android already has near 50% market share in several markets.
Only a fool (Like Elop) would throw away a market share lead and I dont think Google are lightly to become fools in the near future.
Android is open source so if Google became fools another company could "Roll their Own" and
That is why Android is lightly to win the smart phone war.
1000121089 2 November, 2011 14:24
I have too many apps and games installed on my WP7 already, so I don't understand when people complain about not having enough apps, and use that to deny the whole phone is just naive. Being a previous Apple/Android/Symbian user, I much prefer the Windows Phone to any other smartphone platforms out there.
1000121089 2 November, 2011 14:26
And also as much as I want to like Android (love Google and its products), it definitely came short compared to my expectations. I do find it very confusing, though it is customizable. I could barely navigate the multiple desktops and stumble through most Apps I want to get to.
anonymous 2 November, 2011 15:36
@1000121089
"And also as much as I want to like Android (love Google and its products), it definitely came short compared to my expectations. I do find it very confusing, though it is customizable. I could barely navigate the multiple desktops and stumble through most Apps I want to get to."
I think you were the sort of person Ballmer was referring to when he made his speech about needing to be a computer scientist to use android, and by inference Windows seems to attract the less, shall we say intelligent users.
WP7 Seems well suited for you.
anonymous 2 November, 2011 17:30
OMG. This article was written by a 10 year old!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a joke. Next time pull your head out of APP-ville and understand that it's more than about how many apps you have. How many versions of Angry "wtPH" do you need??? Apparently alot. WP kicks some serious ***. It really comes down to choice and what are you using it for. Although BMW us the ultimate driving machine i won't pretend that it can climb a hill like a $20k Honda CRV with 4WD. Somehow people think that the iPhone has it all. Well, wake up people. It only does a small part of it.
anonymous 2 November, 2011 18:09
@****hole above<br /><br />
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"Well, wake up people. It only does a small part of it."<br /><br />
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WP7 does **** all<br /><br />
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It cant even sync with microsoft own exchange server ***<br /><br />
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Then there is no skype even tho MS owns skype..............<br /><br />
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Plus other apps like SKY/BBC google maps etc etc<br /><br />
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WP7 doesnt kick **** it sucks *****...............<br /><br />
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Not everyone is a fanboi like u, most people have voted with their wallet and they have spoken, they LIKE android and they LIKE IOS.....but they dont like silly little phone from microsoft - its a free world.<br /><br />
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Mabe u need to wake up<br /><br />
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In a few years MS might pass RIM
anonymous 2 November, 2011 18:27
Not many desireable apps on Windows Phone devices? Are you kidding? My wife has an iPhone 4, and once you discount the access to features integrated into WP7 for which both iOS and Android require actual apps to do, I can get an appropriate app for anything either one of us ever uses. You presume that "everybody on the planet" requires the same 100,000 apps. And that's a stupid and simplistic assumption. Quite typical of your kind of "comparison". And of any desktop app/feature that I use, the only one the comes to mind that I'd like to see show up on WP7 is Pandora. But for all other music Zune pass hands down is better than any other competitor. Spotify, for example, is a joke compared to Zune. And Skype is coming this year, along with newer hardware that can fully utilize its potential. And I'm sick of people assuming we all use---or WANT to use---ANYthing Google. I don't use any Google sites or features. Google maps is lame, tired. I much prefer Bing maps and now that Nokia's on the team, the Navteq inculcation is going to be even more desireable.
anonymous 2 November, 2011 19:56
It kinda looks like you did this comparison without actually using the Lumia 800. Your picture makes it seem like you saw it at the announcement or in the store and wrote your thoughts based off that experience. I thought Cnet would have some journalistic integrity. While it is true that iOS/Android have more apps, WP7 has over 90% of the ones that people use. And when more people ditch iOS and Android for Windows Phone (and they will).. they will get the last 10%.
Windows Phone is the best experience hands down.
P.S. -- Why is 'tinkering' a category?! Why would an average user want to tinker. Tinkering, to me, means having to manage my open apps and close them because they were either written poorly, or they include malware .. which is the majority of the apps in the Android marketplace.
anonymous 2 November, 2011 20:36
"P.S. -- Why is 'tinkering' a category?! Why would an average user want to tinker. Tinkering, to me, means having to manage my open apps and close them because they were either written poorly, or they include malware .. which is the majority of the apps in the Android marketplace."
WP7 is full of bugs, but thats another story.........
WP7 is missing more like 80% of the apps people need not the 10% you optimistically state.
Read it here at the official windows mobile user site
http://wmpoweruser.com/the-apps-windows-phone-lacks/
WP7 has a market share of 1.7% simply because there are no good apps and too many apps missing.
garyc2011 2 November, 2011 20:54
lol - I feel so sorry for these wintards
http://wmpoweruser.com/the-apps-windows-phone-lacks/
This *accurate* cnet article has them all in a tizzy...........they are starting to sound like a bunch of freaks, and their arguments to counter WP7's BLATENT app shortage is laughable.........lets laugh at a few shall we (responses from above site)
Missing App / Wintards Response
Dominos Pizza - "it's called the phone app. Just dial the correct number"
Skype - "You know it's coming"
Spotify - "Coming soon"......(yawn getting tired ot these old chestnuts)
SW Airlines - "why do I need SouthWest Airlines if I fly Delta all the time"
Words with Friends - " I know absolutely NOBODY on any platform that plays that game. Seriously. I must run with a much more intelligent crowd."
College Apps - "various "city apps" and "bank apps" are niche"
Zunes small catalog - Zunes everything I care to listen too. So I'm happy. :D
Google+ - "Google+ is quite frankly rubbish"
So you see folks if you buy a Windows Phone and it doesn't have an essential app according to the wintards at wmpoweruser you
a) are a retard
b) dont actually need it
c) The old favoutite, "its coming"
Mark Anderson 2 November, 2011 21:43
@anonymous1 and 2
I thought my post was clear enough. Apps don't matter as a differentiator once the ones everyone uses are common to every platform. Since is the case they are quite clearly not the main reason why people buy phones and are therefore irrelevant. A point that most people other than CNET and a few commenters seem to get.
@anonymous 3
I must admit your naivety about Google is refreshing. Do you seriously think they are any different from Apple or Microsoft? Also, did you think of 'M$' all by yourself? How original! Give yourself a pat on the back.
@anonymous 4
Yes, open standards always win which is why Linux is on 95% of the worlds personal computers and not Windows and why Open Office is far more popular than MS Office. Oh wait.
@anonymous 5
Actually Ballmer's point, which is valid, is that the stock Android UI is, frankly, awful. That's why it has to have layers such as Sense and Touch Wiz to make it half bearable. Metro on the other hand is elegant and easy to use. So not a matter of intelligence, more of common sense.
@anonymous 6
"It cant even sync with microsoft own exchange server ffs"
BZZT! Wrong! Do try and know what you're talking about in future.
@garyc2011 (and well done! You actually had the intelligence to create an account unlike most of the people here. Ok, your use of 'wintards' means you probably aren't that bright, but still....)
So:
Pandora – No, Slacker or Zune Pass isn’t a substitute. And it's not available in the UK anyway so what's your point?
Spotify - yeah... and I prefer to own my music rather than rent it. And anyway there's Soundcloud.
Skype – Coming soon. And since, you know, MS own it, it'll be there. In the meantime I'll err... use the phone to call people?
Domino’s App – order pizza right from your iPhone. Right. Really. Who cares? Phone it via Yell. I mean, seriously, is that it?
Words with Friends – Nearly everyone plays this, not the alternatives. *Yawn*
Audible - Download from website to mp3.
College Apps – University of Arizona has an iPhone and Android app, but no Windows Phone app. PAY ATTENTION. WE LIVE IN THE UK, NOT ARIZONA. Total fail for even bringing this up.
Square – App for iPhone and Android that allows you to swipe Credit Cards with your phone. If you happen to have a ridiculous attachment. The rest of just use...err... the credit card?
I mean we could go on (and Chase Bank? Really? Another fail for mentioning it) but the point is with the exception of perhaps Spotify hardly anyone cares. On the other hand, having mobile Excel is actually useful. Go figure.
Never mind, kids. You can stick with your hideous and clunky Android phones or boring and sterile Apple phones. It takes all sorts after all.
anonymous 2 November, 2011 22:58
actually that guy is right there are wp7/exchange issues
http://wmpoweruser.com/windows-phone-7-email-bug-causes-exchange-server-2003-problems/
lol wintards !!!! good name
I agree with him the "wintards" are so full of rage
i went to the wmpoweruser site and compared the attiute and responses to 1) *NO* Dominoes app and 2) A Pizza Hut app being launced
1) http://wmpoweruser.com/the-apps-windows-phone-lacks/#disqus_thread
No Dominoes app produced the following rage
simple "workarounds" like USING YOUR GODDAMN PHONE TO CALL DOMINOS
Domino's app - Seriously? You need an app to order a pizza? You probably are an Occupy Wall Street smooth-brain, too.
Domino’s App – really? you eat this crap
Domino’s App – When would I ever need this, if I want Pizza to be delivered, I am in a house... where I can phone, or use the computer..
While windows market place may be a little anemic who eats dominos pizza?
use the Local Scout option of Bing, or Poynt, or Yelp.
I dont eat Domino's pizza and most of my friends dont either so I would not use an app to order from them
we sure dont care about dominos
BUT news of a Pizza Hut brought these responses
http://wmpoweruser.com/pizza-hut-releases-windows-phone-application/
Nice!! The more the merrier....
Now all we need is the Chipotle app!
I would love to see Pizza Hut in the rest of the World release this.
What a bunch of freaks, having conversations about this crap.........L for losers :/
ps "Skype – Coming soon. And since, you know, MS own it, it'll be there. In the meantime I'll err... use the phone to call people?"
Is that really a response ??? why bother using skype wen it *IS* released, why not use err the phone ???, or *IS* is just possible that skype has *advantages* ? and as WP7 doesn't have skype it is at a *disadvantage*
WP7 nerds are turning out to be worse than linux nerds..........................
anonymous 2 November, 2011 23:37
@ Mark Anderon
"Square – App for iPhone and Android that allows you to swipe Credit Cards with your phone. If you happen to have a ridiculous attachment. The rest of just use...err... the credit card?"
You don seem to understand what this is for.....its for retailers
Windows phone users seem to be able to tell everyone else what apps they DONT need, without knowing what they are or gave ever used them
I think its a case of they really dont know what they are missing.......its just ignorance
anonymous 3 November, 2011 07:35
How about pricing?
iPhone 4s: 650 Euros
Galaxy Nexus: 600 Euros
Nokia Lumia: 480 Euros
No matter how you get your phone (with what provider) you still have to pay way more for an iPhone 4s than a Nokia Lumia 800.
garyc2011 3 November, 2011 08:52
@anon 7:35
"No matter how you get your phone (with what provider) you still have to pay way more for an iPhone 4s than a Nokia Lumia 800."
You have to pay WAY more for a BMW than a FORD................your point being ?
anonymous 3 November, 2011 09:45
You really think the Nokia looks good ?
It can't decide whether it's got square corners or rounded. Mixing them (square outline, rounded screen, square app labels) looks so wrong. Maybe it looks better in real life, but I'm unconvinced.
Then there's those big clunky buttons/icons. Simple / straightforward is good, but you can go too far. Is the layout fixed or are you stuck with that odd bunch of blue buttons and a scattering of others ?
anonymous 3 November, 2011 13:36
i have had play with a lumia in a phones for u store, and yes its a tasty little beast!
anonymous 3 November, 2011 17:15
Is this done with the pre-production Google Nexus? I thought the software was only recently flashed for sale.
anonymous 4 November, 2011 06:32
"Is our judgement fair? Should the Lumia 800 have won, or is the Galaxy Nexus a million times better than anything else out there?"<br />
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Answer: **** you. Ease of access: Lumia. Apps: iPhone. Freedom: Nexus. Hardware: Draw. And the winner? Suck my ****. They SHOULD HAVE WON altogether. Now I really proved to myself that CNET's biased to Google/Apple.<br />
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****, if a year from now, Windows Phone made it to the #1 spot, they will bash Android/iOS already. **** you, **** you all! ****!
anonymous 4 November, 2011 21:27
hahah nerds at wmpoweruser post this on "missing wp7 apps" thread
You need an app to order a pizza? You probably are an Occupy Wall Street smooth-brain, too.
BUT then when they snap apic of a wp7 "in the wild" they post this
http://wmpoweruser.com/windows-phone-finally-part-of-the-99/
"This Samsung Focus was noticed in Seattle in the hands of a protestor, and of course the handset is right at home there. Nothing says non-conformist like a Windows Phone 7 handset"
What a bunch of freaking nerds...................................
Mark Anderson 5 November, 2011 06:11
@anonymous1
"http://wmpoweruser.com/windows-phone-7-email-bug-causes-exchange-server-2003-problems/"
You do realise that article is a year old and the issue has been fixed, right?
"lol wintards !!!! good name"
You probably want to think twice about calling other people names. Seriously.
@anonymous2
Fair point about the Square app. Great for small retailers.... which leaves the 99% of us who aren't thinking it's a bit useless for us.
Chaka Gordon 7 November, 2011 13:09
sorry but these reviews aren't very objectifying!
maverickjohn 7 November, 2011 19:59
I can understand why people on the WP bandwagon are crying but the shortage of apps is still a problem. There are some nice apps which are not yet available on wp, some even microsoft have created such as panorama shooting which funnily enough is available on iOS. apps might not mean much to many of you but freedom of choice of apps is always welcomed.
This one is a no brainer for me, Galaxy nexus is my pick.
anonymous 9 November, 2011 14:44
I need a smartphone that I could use as a reliable telephone.
It would need a battery life of 14 hours minimum.
I would like to be able to place calls without looking at it, while driving.
I hate it when phones crash when I am about to answer an urgent call.
I also hate it when I have to buy a German plug-in to sync stuff on my Mac.
I have been through Nokia N81, 9300, iPhones 1 and 3 (the latter does not like the tropic) and now I have a Galaxy 9000 that I flashed (French OS version stank). I also got a bulky battery to fulfill my practical needs.
As a phone it is not the very best there is. Probably the Galaxy II and the Nexus are better. How about connectivity and battery life?
The most functional thing I ever had was a PalmV with a Nokia telephone. Everything possible at the time was possible. Who'd stare at a video on a postcard? I do not play games, I am an adult.
I have to be reached. I carry a Sam 2700 as a backup. It is not smart but it is a phone. This is crazy!
The stuff has got out of hand. People talk about their phones like they were objects of modern art and not something that you USE.
anonymous 10 November, 2011 11:26
'I do not play games, I am an adult.' seriously??? did you just say that! you have issues if you think adults can't play games lol.
anonymous 23 November, 2011 21:50
Wierdly people make a lot of valid points, however, they fail to bring their ideas to light. For instance, people are flaping about the lack of WP apps, yet, they fail to mention any that would - genuinely - effect my day-to-day life with/without them, (unless i consistently operated at eating pizzas everyday by using an app!!! Please....)
I currently own a shoddy REGULAR phone. My broher, has an iPhone 4S.... :( Personnaly, I feel there is absolutely nothing groundbreaking whatsoever about the previous iphone to the recent one. And, as any any mainstream lacky will tell you, "Apple is the best thing since coloured television!!!" (#egsageration...?). Also, i would not like to share the same mainstream phone as my brother (16 & 18 respectively). So, it seems to be decided between I.C.S and Mango.
Unfortunately for Android, I own an Xbox 360 (PS3 has no comparison, that's another story... :P) which means i can connect to all my friends via WLM and Facebook etc. From basically studying hardcore with all these phones including reviews and visual hands-on reviews it seems the basic WP spec + the benefit of an AMOLED display outways the potentialy "rocket-science" OS of the Android. Also, using office based systems on a phone seems quite revelutionary to me (whether i've been living uder a rock :P) seems potentially useful and exciting. Finnaly, i think enough has been said in terms of apps and seems their is a deadlock between the two opinions (no comment).
In conclusion, "I'm a PC. And windows..... seems like a good idea to me."
Aaron Fortune (16).
anonymous 27 November, 2011 11:18
What about office on wp7? Share point, one note, sky drive, and power point are built right in not to mention outlook is a snap to set up.
anonymous 27 November, 2011 11:41
Lol WP7 may be single core but there isn't a single game that you need a dual core processor to run on iTunes or android market that can't be run on a 1gig chip. When we develop games we write code that will hit the largest group of consumers. Dual core won't be utilized until mid to late 2012. Right around the time 3 and 4 core phones will be hitting the shelf, which none of the OS systems will be utilizing then anyway, it's such a stupid gimmick. iPhone, Android, and WP7 are all great choices and all fit a unique market group. God all this fanboy crap is so lame.
anonymous 6 December, 2011 08:02
There are only two questions that need be answered ....
1. What is the 'Meaning of Life' ?
2. Which Operating System is the best?
Well.. I think right now IOS is the best. It has a cult following, what it does it does well and it is classy. It has its flaws but then nothing you cant live with. The closed environment is a blessing in disguise.. Ever heard of anti-virus for IOS?
Windows is promising but lets see where it goes... It will always be plagued with security issues though..
Android.. Runners Up.. Good.. Efficient.. But soon everyone will have it... No cult value
anonymous 24 January, 2012 10:07
What a useless comparison. How is 50,000 apps not enough? Everything I need is available for WinPhone7 - TV guide, trip planner, weather, etc., along with a huge bunch of useless krap that no-one needs. I'd also suggest there are far more important aspects of a phone than "Freedom and General Tinkering". In fact, the review reads like it was contrived so that each phone would win a category. I also think the fragile nature of the iPhone's design should have seen it lose in the hardware section.
anonymous 24 January, 2012 11:30
Visit any Website containing Lumia reviews, you will surely find people with positive and unstoppable reviews feed backs and ratings for the new Nokia Lumia. Lumia is just a brand by itself. Anything like Price, technology or hardware compared to the New Nokia Lumia will surely make you win.
It is a trusted brand, a worthy brand and a most trusted technology over decades. so its up to you how you define the New Nokia Lumia.
anonymous 11 March, 2012 01:27
I bought a Nokia lumia 800 after being told how good windows phones were but found out to late just how crap they really are,I can't watch BBC iPlayer as I have not got adobe flash reader & there isn't one available for it,it doesn't Bluetooth files,watching video clips are always stopping to stream never a smooth operation & the battery never last half a day without having to recharge,it's just one big white elephant & has been dumped in a draw never too see daylight again & out came the Nokia E71 again another crap phone but 100% better than the lumia 800.Nokia give up making phones you've lost your way best phone you made was the n95 8gb