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Barclays Pingit mobile money app: Is it any good?

Barclays' new money service Pingit lets smart phone users send cash to each other via an app. The bank is touting it as a simple way to split a bill or sort an IOU -- there's a daily limit of £300 that can be pinged via the service, with no fee for you to send or receive cash.

Currently you need a UK Barclays current account to send money via Pingit, but the bank says non-Barclays account holders will be able to send money "soon".

So how easy is it?

To send money you need to download the Barclays Pingit app -- which is only available for Android, BlackBerry and iOS at the moment. I had no trouble downloading the app to an iPhone.

To receive money you don't need to download the app, but you do need to register for Pingit, which means giving Barclays your mobile number. If you don't have a smart phone you can still register online, or Barclays customers can register at a cashpoint -- but we dread to think how unpopular that will make you with the people in the queue behind you.

The basic requirement to receive money via Pingit is having a mobile phone that's capable of receiving text messages. If the person you're trying to send cash to hasn't registered for Pingit they'll get a text telling them to register within 24 hours or the payment will be cancelled and the money stays in your account.

Payments are sent via the Pingit app -- by keying in the recipient's phone number and specifying the amount you want to send. And you'd better be sure you key in the correct digits. Get the number wrong and chances are that's the last you'll see of your cash -- having gifted it to a random stranger.

What about the small print?

Barclays makes clear it won't cover the cost of any unintended gifts -- noting in its T&Cs, "We are not responsible if you send it to the wrong person." It does say you should tell it asap if you realise you've sent cash to the wrong digits, and adds that it will "attempt" to recover it. So basically don't expect to see the cash again.

Before sending money, Barclays also notes you should check your intended recipient is "happy for their number to be shared in this way" -- which is far too blasé for my tastes. Let's face it, no one is going to do that. But if you read a bit more of the Pingit T&Cs you'll see Barclays gives itself the right to send marketing missives to registered mobile numbers. In other words: hello SMS spam.

To opt out of receiving spam texts you have to write to Barclays (and when they say "write" they really do mean by taking pen to paper, and adding envelope and stamp) -- or "by visiting your local branch and providing your full name, address and account details and the types of communication that you no longer wish to receive (eg mail, telephone or email)". Hardly a convenient way to say 'don't spam me'.

Registering via the Pingit app

If you have one of the supported smart phones and can download the app, it will walk you through the registration process.

We soon ran into problems registering. First up you're asked to create a five-digit code for security, and then to enter your mobile number and bank account details -- and then the app will send a mobile verification code via SMS. This has to be entered back into the app to unlock the next stage of the registration process: verification.

To verify your Pingit account you'll either need your Pinsentry -- a desktop gadget that Barclays uses to boost the security of its online banking service by generating one-time codes -- or find a Barclays ATM or bank branch.

My fellow Craver Rich's attempt to register using a Pinsentry hit the buffers -- after first selecting the wrong key on the Pinsentry he was rightly blocked. But two more attempts, this time mashing all the correct buttons and inputting the supplied digits, were also rebuffed. After the third attempt he found himself locked out owing to "invalid verification code entered" -- and was told he had "no more attempts remaining".

Barclays Pingit error
The Pinsentry and the Pingit app didn't get on, so registration stalled.

To continue, the app suggested he ring a phone number and quote another supplied code -- or "re-register for Barclays Pingit". Since the first attempt to register had failed, it was unclear how to go about re-registering, since he was locked out of the app. Presumably another trip to the bank branch beckoned.

How secure is it?

Getting registered and verified involves plenty of hoops to jump through -- indeed, it put us off using the service -- so that feels reasonably secure. Even if someone nabs your phone and knows your account details they're not going to know your PIN, so they won't be able to register you without your say so.

Once registered, the app itself is protected by a five-digit passcode. Barclays won't let you choose 12345 or 11111 on the grounds that it's "too obvious". So provided you don't choose other silly stuff like your birthday the passcode should keep light-fingered phone thieves from sending themselves your cash. There is also the £300 daily limit putting a ceiling on the amount of cash that can leak out of your account this way.

A far less secure aspect of Pingit is the amount of mobile phone numbers Barclays is going to harvest as people try to pay their mates that £20 they owe them, and forget to ask whether they want their phone number shared with the bank. There's no way to receive the cash without registering either -- and that means accepting Barclays' right to spam you.

Aren't there other ways to pay with a mobile phone?

Pingit is designed for settling small cash loans between friends and the like. If you want to make payments in shops with your mobile it's not going to be much use. For that you'll need a phone with an NFC chip in it -- the same short-range contactless communications technology found in the Oyster travelcards that let people swipe in and out of the London Underground.

Last year Google demoed a mobile wallet with NFC in it that can be used to swipe to pay, but it hasn't launched outside the US. In the UK, the number of contactless credit and debit cards has been steadily increasing, but NFC phones remain a rarity for now -- despite having been talked about for years.

Orange and Barclaycard have been making noise recently about launching an NFC phone this summer.

The London Olympics could also give NFC phones a bit of a leg up -- with plans to hand NFC handsets to athletes. Google is also reportedly trying to bring its mobile wallet here in time for the Olympics.

Have you paid for stuff with your phone? Would you use Pingit? Does the potential for text spam bother you? Let me know in the comments, or over on the CNET UK Facebook page.

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anonymous 16 February, 2012 16:58

I ahve used it and its a fantastic service...easy ...quick and fun..just ping it!

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Rich Trenholm 16 February, 2012 17:17

Funny, that's exactly what it says in the press release

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anonymous 17 February, 2012 03:01

If the inter-phone transfer is totally secure and you can choose a currency other than sterling as your desired currency, I think this would be a bloody marvellous service. Even if the bank spams you with texts, you can block its text number, e-mail address and phone numbers using a free app from the respective app markets...

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anonymous 17 February, 2012 10:13

I have to say this is a terrible review , it takes 2 minutes to set up and works fantastically.
Obvioulsy you guiys at CNEt are a bit "challenged"
Don't be put off people , this is the way forward !!!

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anonymous 17 February, 2012 10:37

My verification code is to many numbers. Help?

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Natasha Lomas 17 February, 2012 10:41

@anonymous Barclays confirmed to me there is a bug which causes the lock-out issue Rich ran into -- it's intermittent, which explains why you didn't have any problems, but if you do get locked out they advise deleting the app, re-downloading it and starting the registration process again

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anonymous 17 February, 2012 11:15

Likewise, I set this up just now and it took about two minutes. I'm not quite sure how you found the setup so complicated. Saying that, I've been using Barclays online banking and PinSentry for years so maybe I'm just used to the hoops they make you jump through. Yet to see how useful it actually is for making payments!

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anonymous 17 February, 2012 13:47

This whole set up took 25 minutes owing to Barclays Bank ineptitude for failing to send a speedy PIN, having to call their call centre and having to find my PINSENTRY device. Then I find out that the recipient also needs to sign up for this. I do not think that they are going to jump through this many hoops so I am going to blast Barclays for making it difficult to do business once again. I just wish this bank would up its game. It's quite pathetic. Big FAIL

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Alimus 17 February, 2012 13:58

Yeah I really don't see the point in this. If I'm with my friend by the time they'd have sorted out all the registration etc I could have either; walked to a cashpoint and withdrawn the money, logged into my online banking and transferred it to them or even drawn a picture of a spider valued at however much I owe them.

This service provides nothing that isn't already available elsewhere, and while it *might* be more convenient in *some* situations, that's certainly not enough to make me want to sign up. I'd certainly prefer a well developed mobile banking app instead.

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anonymous 17 February, 2012 14:18

Sounds great - it really does, except that anyone who wants to trace someone or find out their account details merely has to send £1 then tell Barclays it didn't get to the recipient. Barclays say they will share the recipients bank details with you - so by knowing someones mobile number you can obtain their bank details and locale if their Bank has geographic sorting code allocation. Now no-one would do anything illegal involving phones would they - oh hang on what started the Leveson enquiry lol. Know any celebrity phone numbers? I feel pale.

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anonymous 17 February, 2012 15:05

Just tried to register to receive payments as a non-Barclays customer, and the 1p payment they make to your account has no reference on it, so you can't complete the registration. Means I'm a penny up though...get in!

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anonymous 17 February, 2012 17:42

its annoying when people do a hatchet job - write laced with their own agenda!

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anonymous 19 February, 2012 11:36

Your main objection seems to be the difficulty unsubscribing from the spam texts. Seems none of you actually read the T's&C's as they also state you can just reply 'Stop' to any of the messages.
Seems Dan Sung on pocket-lint says the same though, has he been copying?

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anonymous 30 March, 2012 06:57

Just downloaded this app on the iPhone. Entered my details.
I have a business current account and personal current account with Barclays and entered the sort code and account number correctly, however a message comes up preventing progress and states 'Please enter a valid Barclays UK sort code and account number' I have entered correctly.
First I entered the details of my business current account, not valid it says. Then I enter details of my personal current account, not valid it says. I wonder if anyone else has had this problem? I will have to contact them.

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anonymous 1 April, 2012 07:43

I registered this app, 2 minutes no problem. Great app, I will very rarely use this to send money, but enjoy the instant bank balance and mini statement.

I do think for the future such an app has plenty of scope for improvement for instance being able to view all my accounts balances, transferring money between them. The setting up of numbers to pay charities etc....

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anonymous 10 April, 2012 14:42

If you're looking for more than a mini statement then Pingit probably isn't what you're looking for, although it is great for transferring money.

For android, 'Blue Money' allows you to download your full statement and balances of couse. I believe its coming to iOS soon.

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anonymous 18 April, 2012 20:41

Difficult to join. Pointless app as PayPal already does this. Can't pay for goods and I hate banks, justified by the elongated opt out clause of text marketing. Rubbish! Go back to the drawing board.

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anonymous 26 April, 2012 09:04

Ive been using this for a few days but ran into a problem this morning. A message comes back saying the payment is delayed and will take a few days. Frankly this is useless , as I have no easy way to cancel the payment so I cant give the recipient cash instead. Surely the whole point of this is instant payments. Very frustating.

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anonymous 30 April, 2012 19:25

useless; i received money and pingit registered as i sent fund. Too many issues to be a real contender for mobile payments

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anonymous 8 May, 2012 20:17

Saw ad on telly, liked the idea (I use PayPal a lot) but reading all the comments I conclude:
1)Has bugs, doesnt always work properly, not user friendly.
2)Bank spam is an issue,especially for recipient . Could annoy your friends.
3)Design details poor - I could have done better myself in a day. How long have they been working on it ?
In conclusion - STEER CLEAR.
I expect any banking app to be 100% reliable when launched otherwise its just going to waste my time/annoy me/result in yet another idiodic organisation going on my blacklist.
I am selling all my Barclays shares tomorrow.

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anonymous 24 May, 2012 07:57

I registered for the receive only service and all went through as it should.

I have never used the service as people prefer to send me money by either bank transfer or by paypal

As i like to offer it as a option though i will keep it

Problem now is i have changed my mobile number so rang custumer services and was told they can delete my old number so i can then register my new number but on trying they say they cant seem to do it during a 25 minuite national rate phone call?

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anonymous 29 May, 2012 17:20

Absolutely useless. As I'm not a Barclays customer, I had to wait for a credit to my bank account of 1p to appear. As it was Friday, I could see the transaction on my online bank but not the details which I had to wait until Monday for. By then the pin on the credit transaction had expires, so I got another 1p out of Barclays. Next, it wanted to confirm my address by post again as I wasn't a customer. Ok. Letter sent 1st of May arrived 21st of May again the pin had expired. I was then told I had to de-register and re-register again, to which I say forget it. I'm not waiting another month to register.

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anonymous 2 June, 2012 11:14

Impressed you made it to the end of the sign up process... http://number23.org/2012/06/i-tried-pingit-or-at-least-i-tried/

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anonymous 18 June, 2012 15:31

Cant us on rooted phones!

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anonymous 1 July, 2012 15:27

Thought I would give this a go despite having plenty of other ways of sending money such as PayPal. Regret having wasted my time and will NOT be bothering. There are about four or five steps in the registration process, most of which mean waiting to be sent a code, the last of which comes out in the post! Get this, the code on the letter is only valid for seven days from when it is sent!!! So make sure you open your post regularly and don't go away!!! You ten have to call a phone number and they inform you the only option is to restart the whole registration process!!! I think not ;) Can't see enough people bothering with all that so the system will no doubt die a death pretty soon, despite Barclays spending lots of their (ill-gotten, as has recently been found) funds on swanky, misleading (simple my ar5e!) ads and helpdesks that are open on Sundays!

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anonymous 18 July, 2012 13:58

Pile of crap .. another big fail for Barclays who consistently get it plain wrong.

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anonymous 9 August, 2012 11:12

i like the application but as soon as i download any new software i.e updates for my arc c the pingit goes back to the registration screen and i have to call pingit de-register and re-register its a f--nightmare

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anonymous 21 August, 2012 23:39

is there any windowphone version coming up??

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anonymous 20 September, 2012 09:51

i wasted 30 mins of my time setting it up, text verification, penny sent to my account then waited to next business day to enter the code, filled this in then told i needed to go into branch with my passport. called the helpdesk to complain and was hung up on. never again, piece of cr@p.

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anonymous 1 October, 2012 09:56

It is not possible to register for the service using "Intelligent Finance" from the Halifax. The reference number never appears on your statement, and there is no alternative registration method (according to the phone support line). I tried twice, over a two-week period in September 2012.

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anonymous 4 December, 2012 12:49

I had the lovely experience of having to ring up Barclays after trying to send £90 and getting an error message saying they are unable to verify the status of my payment. Yet they still deducted the money from my account? Once I had sorted this farce out I never used it again.

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anonymous 26 April, 2013 16:43

I've found this app to be utter rubbish - FAR TOO MUCH SECURITY AND INCONVENIENCE.
For example:-
1. Register (Fine!)
2. Text Message Vefication (Okay :-/)
3. Desposit two tiny amounts to confirm account because I'm not with Barclays (takes two days!)
4. Send a letter to confirm address (7 days!!! FFS)
You must then do all this again if you change your phone or delete the App!!! Utter nonsense. I'm sticking with NATWEST

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anonymous 22 May, 2013 01:24

PINGIT =CR*P
PAYPAL =EXTREMELY LARGE PILE OF CR*P FEES ARE EXTORTIONATE HOLD PAYMENTS FOREVER ANOTHER USELESS YANK RUN COMPANY END OF.

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