BT Infinity fibre-optic broadband: Not infinite in any sense of the word

BT is bringing high-speed Internet access to the home, under the frustratingly misleading brand name 'Infinity'. Offering initial speeds of up to 40Mbps, it uses fibre-optic cable to pump the Web from the telephone exchange to your local 'cabinet' -- those green boxes that you see on street corners. From the cabinet, the Internet will be freshly piped to your home using a special kind of DSL known as VDSL (Very high bit-rate Digital Subscriber Line).

VDSL has the potential to achieve very high speeds over short copper runs -- up to 100Mbps. So, where there is a fibre cabinet near your house, you should get speeds of up to 60Mbps. BT has plans to increase Infinity's 40Mbps where the cable run is short enough. Its upstream bandwidth is also impressive, at up to 10Mbps.

To access Infinity, customers will need a BT phone line, which costs about £12 a month. The service comes in two flavours. The first, most basic pack offers 40Mbps download and 2Mbps upload speeds. There's also a cap of 20GB when you take this option. You get a BT Infinity Home Hub included, but there's a sign-up fee of £50 and an 18-month commitment.

The second pack offers the same 40Mbps download speeds, but ups the upstream to 10Mbps. There's no download cap on this pack, and the activation fee is waived. The cheaper Option 1 costs £20 a month, with the unlimited Option 2 jumping to £25 a month, also for 18 months minimum.

We find the 20GB limit on Option 1 pretty amusing, given that you could munch though it in little more than an hour going full-tilt at 40Mbps. Even the 'unlimited' option isn't without the vague threat of a cap of some kind, warning that a fair-use policy applies. We don't know what that means for downloads, but expect trouble if you leave a BitTorrent client running constantly pumping terabytes of data out each month.

So what if you're using a non-BT ISP and don't want to swap to BT? At the moment, you have no choice: it's BT or nothing. Reseller options will become available at some point, so your favourite ISP should soon be able to sell you 40Mbps broadband. For LLU providers such as Be and Sky, there's the option for them to carry on offering their services independent of BT's equipment. This is managed differently in the exchange, but for the end user, the process will be transparent.

Using fibre to the cabinet is not a new idea -- cable companies around the world have been using this system for a long time. The difference between BT and the UK's major cable provider, Virgin, is how the signal is sent from the cabinet to your home. Where BT is using a DSL variant, Virgin uses a system called DOCIS to move both broadband and TV signals to the customer's home. In theory, there is more potential bandwidth in the Virgin system, but this capacity is shared with TV channels, so don't expect 300Mbps broadband any time soon. 

For those interested, BT has a phone line checker that will tell you if you're able to get the Infinity service in your area. BT suggests that some 40 per cent of the UK population will be able to get this new service by the end of the year. Our own research indicates that, of our self-selecting sample, some 93 per cent of respondents wouldn't be able to access Infinity. So far, the name seems a pretty empty promise.

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Anonymous 27 July, 2010 11:41

Im going with bt option 2 tomorrow, then at the end of sept im going to fibre. I do online gaming while the mrs does ebay and facebook with youtube! so i need the speed, im in dartford getting 6 meg down with sky and 0.69 kb up. il be getting 4.5 meg with bt. but infinty will give us 21.5 meg down and 9.5 meg up. usually i find bt under estimate speed, maybe just in case they cant give you more?

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Anonymous 7 August, 2010 17:42

I was with BT about 2 years ago but only because at the time i was living in a area that didnt have cable and my speeds were terrible!! barely reaching 2Meg and was always cutting out, i still have friends who live in the area that say it is still really slow, as soon as i was living in a area that i could get cable i had it straight away i have 20Meg broadband and have never had any sign of it getting slow at peak times, the slowest speed test i had was 19.3Meg. I have 2 V+HD boxes Unlimited Anytime calls and 20Meg Unlimited Internet so all XL packs for £55 a month i dont think you could beat that, and i have never had a problem. I would say if you can get Virgin Media in your area get that as i personally think its most reliable.

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Anonymous 1 September, 2010 20:01

I was on BB option3, and I was getting 7Mbits/s. I was persudaed to go on to infinity, as BT told me I would get 22Mbits/s. I got 2Mbits/s (max), and then it wnt doen ro 250kbits/s. I told them to take it away and revert meto option 3. It took them 4 weeks after removing "infinity". They claimed to have sent me emails about it, but, with no internet access, how was I supposed to read them?
When they then told me I would have to pay for technician to remove the fibre-optic equipment. I nearly told them to f*ck off. I removed it myself.
I am now getting such a slow speed that it cannot be measured. I hate BT. If this is what they do to long-standing internet customers (10 years +), they can go and shove their system where the sun don't shine. The only problem is that the only rival is a crook!

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Anonymous 2 September, 2010 00:03

anonymous 20 May, 2010 10:26

1000Mbps?? Over a single pair of unconditioned copper? You've got to be joking??

Don't be daft, That will come down the fibre to the premesis (FTTP) product which is initailly rated at 100Mbps
but has the theorectical capacity to be increaced to 1000Mbps.

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Anonymous 2 September, 2010 00:16

BT while always rate you at around the 20mbps mark for the infinity product as they don't like to give you a sub 20 mbps service on their spnking new product. I have infinity and when the engineer was hear his device sync'd up at 40mbps and speed tested at 37.6 Mbps.
The engineers will always try to get you 40Mbps at the main socket where the BT Infinity hub will be located next to your PC / Laptop.

And for information the Fibre cabs are installed next to or within 300m of the BT copper cabinets so the VDSL gets connected to your line in the Copper cab and has to travel down an average of 300-400 metres of copper cable. Rather than 2-3 kilometers of cable form the exchange as with ADSL which get tied into your line inside the telephone exchange.

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Anonymous 19 September, 2010 12:31

I got Infinity last month. its cr@p to be honest. i havent been able to download anywhere over 3.8mb/sec ? yet a broadband speed test indicates i can download at 38mb/sec !! I also find surfing the web slower than it was when i was with o2.co.uk. Also go for the unlimited option as you will use your 40gb allowance in a few days, then BT with sting you for £1/gb after that! (im not looking forward to my next BT bill!) i might be forced to forking out the extra £/month for unlimited usage. Also, you dont get a fixed ip, nor do they offer one. this can be a real drag, especially if you run servers for anything!. ...in my opinion, i wish i had waited until other providers could offer fibre-optic. but i just couldnt wait, and BT know this ! If going for infinity expect these problems.

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Anonymous 19 September, 2010 17:38

i stay in glasgow and i only get 0.5mb/sec bt r a discrace in scotland iv had to change to 02 to get a mere 1.2mb/sec we will get bt infinity in 30 or 40 years by that time i will be dead so heres hoping bt get their finger out and do something about their crapie phone system

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Anonymous 20 September, 2010 23:58

Coffin Dodger:- OH BT!! what a pitiful excuse they are as a PSTN service supplier, sucking everyone dry with their £12 a month line rental for the copper wire to your home. Some not necessarily copper as they used aluminum for cheapness at one stage - and that creates so much noise. If you are unlucky to be shafted by this you will have difficulty to get past the 400Kbs download. They also tried to preserve their leased line cash cow when ISDN came out - ripping every one off by charging premium for both 64Kb lines as two separate billings. They also palm you off to Openreach for any fault after you manage to get through confusion India. BT make the UK the laughing stock on this planet as they are responsible for holding back any form of innovation - the Infinity product is another excuse to rip the gullible public off so BT can pretend they are driving the bleeding edge of technology. Maybe you can tell I dislike BT and their monopolistic practice - the infrastructure has been in place and paid for many times over which Joe public accepts as OK. OffCom is a relatively toothless watchdog with LLU the one feather to be proud of. I think that LLU at exchanges is something that should have happened far earlier but I'm grateful for small mercies. Where the hell are the competitive ISPs - Virgin doesn't seem to have expanded the fibre network from what they took over, maybe the real drive will come from the mobile operators and the cost reductions from their new technology.

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Anonymous 21 September, 2010 16:38

Its always better to go with BT or Virgin if you can.
because providers such as Sky or O2 are all 3rd party broadband providers. A "middle man" if you will.
You end up paying Sky for the broadband/phone or whatever. and you STILL have to pay BT that line rental (which is £15/month if you subscribe to another provider). So everything ends up going through BT anyway.

And the customer support is very annoying. but like every other customer support you have to know what to do when you pick up that phone.
no customer support will get you straight to the problem in 5 mins

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Anonymous 9 October, 2010 09:11

I'm confused with the mentality of some people making comments on this saying go with BT its all going through them so you get the same speed etc any way, BAH humperdink. BT offered me 200k broad band (I don't even count that as broad band just fast narrow band) I hassled them they said I might reach 500k so I phoned O2 they used adsl2+ doubled my speed to 1mb( I was right at the end of their catchment area). now I don't always get that granted but then bts 500k was its max and its never dropped bellow 700k when I'm checking. I live in a built up area but a loooong way from that green box. Also O2 was cheap customer service excellent. I'm staying with O2 until BT can convince me that their service will trump the one Im currently getting.

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Anonymous 17 October, 2010 21:15

I had infinity in my house I lived 216 meters away on the up stream from the exchange and at best speed test came out at 38mbps with the best upstream ar 9.2mbps which yet again was at non-peak times as when in peaks it dropped to 22mbps. But all in all it was a good service but when the bt engineer tested my phone line he said I was able to rececive upto 59mbps and did say bt have capped it in some way.

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Anonymous 4 November, 2010 20:29

Had the Infinity for two weeks now, one evening you get 16mbit and the next you only get 1.5mbit, so far waste of money.

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Anonymous 5 November, 2010 15:27

Had Infinity for 2 days now, i dunno if i'm lucky or what but its been a steady 40mb and steady 10mb upload considering they told me i would only get 20mb download. I'm extremely happy with this would recommend it.

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Anonymous 8 November, 2010 10:34

Quite franky BT are the worst company in the world, they have held us back for years with their ISDN policy, still got to pay for a stupid phone line + calls. Virgin are ok but both of them have call centres in India. What happened to choice, Virgin bought out ntl, etc. so for cable it is them or nothing, BT own Plusnet with their reet gud inturnet. They bought out Dabs so they could flog kit. Why don't they concentrate on getting it right NOW not in another ten years. The Queen will have all her furniture for sale on Ebay by then. Tony Blair harping on years ago about how he wanted to get Britain to the forefront of technology !

don't make me laugh, Britain is fast becoming a third world country, if it isn't already

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Anonymous 12 November, 2010 16:32

I have been using BT Infinity option 1 now for two months and so far speeds have been very good. I get 36 Mbits off peak and around 20Mbits at busy times. These speeds are vastly superior to my old Orange account.

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Anonymous 26 November, 2010 03:25

Orange, LOL
I am looking at BT because at the time of typing this I am getting 0.12Mbps from Orange!

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Anonymous 6 December, 2010 13:48

Its DOCSIS not DOCIS (Date Over Cable System Interface Specification) and you can easily get higher than 300Mbps, the coax cable has 5Gbps of data space on it plenty of room for video and data...

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Anonymous 8 December, 2010 10:21

I have switched from Sky 3.5mb line and I am waiting on BT to install my Fibre Optic next week which they say I will be able to get at least 26.6mb. For me that’s a massive improvement, they have also raised the 100gb allowance to 300gb per month on Unlimited before they reduce your speed during peak times for 30 days. As I only download about 180gb per month, I won’t have a problem. Also I download from subscribed Newsgroups using SSL connections and I've heard the these downloads can’t be classed in any category and therefore won’t be classed as P2P and even if they did I’m still well below 300gb. I was paying Sky in total for my TV, HD, Broadband and Sky Talk £63 per month and another £12 for my line rental to BT, a total of £75, as I watch all my episodes on various channels by downloads which are clearly ahead off the UK, I don’t need the TV, I never use my landline, the Movies just repeat all the time and I can just download HD programmes when I want. I just went ahead and cancelled everything. So £24.99 plus line rental brings it to £36.99 for BT Infinity Option 2 and to be honest, the only thing I will miss would be the Sky + recording facility which I quite liked, apart from that. There’s nothing. So at the end off it I’m happy to get fibre Optic speeds and save myself £38 per month. It’s a no brainer for me anyways. I think it will just depend on the users choice and what they want, and the benefit for me is my PC is hooked up to my LCD TV in my living room via HDMI cable so no sitting in front off a monitor to watch my programmes:)

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Anonymous 17 December, 2010 00:17

We have BT Infinity at work (also have our normal DSL lines too as backup).

Gotta say, I've been testing it and it's amazing.

Speedtest - 20ms ping, 37mb download and wait for it 6.7mb upload!!!

I had 20mb virgin at home until I moved but I've never seen anything like that before.

Nick

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Anonymous 29 January, 2011 15:33

I signed up to BTs product and I am getting 36mb download and 1.6 upload at present which I am very happy with.

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Anonymous 7 February, 2011 09:42

Last November the newspapers (locally) were full of news that FTTC/Infinity would be coming to a few locations in Cornwall in the first roll out. This makes a change as usually the more rural ends of the UK (Cornwall and Scotland) tend to get upgraded last.
Until mid January all the indications were that my exchange (Portreath) would have Infinity in March 2011. Now, February 2011, BT's web site and phone advisers tell me that there are no plans to supply Infinity at all...
I know Cornwall is at the back end of Britain and we don't have a vast population but surely rural locations deserve a half decent connection. In my street we still have aluminium phone lines and the download speed fluctuates considerably from 6 megs to 0.2 megs.
BT have reneged on their promise to supply FTTC to my exchange, and I am really disappointed.

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Anonymous 15 February, 2011 11:14

Don't feel put out that Portreath has found Infinity slipping away from it. I live near Abingdon (Oxfordshire) and until late Dec we were due to be infinit-ised on 31 Dec 2010. Late December it slipped to 31 March 2011 and now when I check it's 'no plans'. I think BT have taken the vote for Infinity result and canned installing it anywhere where they can't guarantee a major profit.

So if they haven't got it installed yet, Infinity refers to the length of time you have to wait for your exchange to be converted to run FTTC.

I've been arguing with BT for several years, we've got Virgin BB over copper and because BT have left the cover off a box up the pole outside our house every time it rains heavily from the north the BB drops out due to fizzing on the line. BT won't take responsibility for the wire as we pay Virgin for the line rental as part of the package.

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Anonymous 16 February, 2011 16:22

I've been with BE for nearly four years and get a pretty much rock-solid 17 / 1.7Mbps - they're a really nice ISP with extremely knowledgeable non-Indian helpdesk staff, genuine no-limit downloading and no port throttling or bandwidth shaping whatsoever.

Contrast this BT's shadowy 'Fair Usage' policy and the 30 day slap-on-the-hand treatment not to mention a draconian 18 month contract and I think I'll stay with BE until they start to offer VDSL or the like.

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Anonymous 17 February, 2011 15:55

I have Infinity..Got a call this morning from B.T telling me I have reached 245gig's and if I reach 300gigs
they will cap my speed at 2 megs up and down.
I am on unlimited..Which is not unlimited. If you want to swap blue-ray films with members of you family.
When I said this is unfair as I have paid for unlimited they just fobbed me off with an link to their site stating
a fair usage policy...in their favour.
I am now stuck with this inferior product for 12 months.
MY ADVICE IT TO WAIT TILL THEY DROP THE LIMIT AND GIVE REAL UNLIMITED BROADBAND.

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QBall80 22 February, 2011 20:54

I have been with B.T infinity now since the 9th of February.. It is now the 22nd of Feb & I have already been capped to 2Mb down and 1.8Mb up..I reached their so called fair policy usage of 300Gig..When I was signing up for infinity I said I would probably do this with in 3 weeks sharing my films with my brothers and some game development B.T said that they would very unlikely cap my connection..Like most I was sharing my movies Blue Ray With my brothers.
yet here I am stuck with a 2Mb connection costing me an arm and a Leg..Have been on to them and all I got was the address to their fair usage policy site and to top it all they told me that Ofcom is fully aware of there policy's...it was like go stuff your self we have it all covered..Put up and shut up.

What can I do...Or should I be asking What should we all do to get our TRUE UNLIMITED CONNECTION
We have all been ripped off by B.T..I am like you all stuck to a 12 month contract...

Tell every one you can not to fall in to the trap we have spread the word on forums and twitter social networks
any how you can. God I am even thinking of putting a Sign in my window and car telling people to not to fall for their Lies...
Keep sending them complaints as they have to answer your complaint.
Good luck & thanks for reading my rant...

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Anonymous 2 March, 2011 15:20

and me was thinking of getting infinity !! i spoke to the ian livinstion team at bt head office
and oh boy they seem to mislead people the bt care says one thing and head office say another
i asked do they cut yoour speed if you go over 300 gigs usage and they said they dont .
BT care told me it would be cut to 2 megs at peak times
oh bt get real and told telling pokies !!!

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Anonymous 4 March, 2011 23:52

I've been on bt infinity since December. Great speeds and a decent stable connection... HOWEVER,
They pretty much stop all bit torrent traffic. I work in IT and know how to set it up by the way. no matter how you port forward it, upnp/manual, encryption turned on/off, they detect it and cap it to about 50kb/s.

I was previously getting over 1mb/s on cable.

also, my pings have not improved at all. i thought being on fibre (from the break out box at the end of my road) would have improved my ping, but not at all.. still around 30 to quake live servers in uk and 40-50+ for european servers. shame really, because its quite an expensive service when you add up the phone line rental as well (which you dont need for cable).

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Anonymous 5 March, 2011 00:03

continued from above:
i'd like to add (if i'm being fair) that the cap is during peak hours by the way (till midnight it seems).
After midnight, the cap gets realeased on bt traffic (where it downloads v.fast indeed).

pretty mental isp's can now trend encrypted traffic, but i guess we cant all rip the back end out of torrents and expect the isp's to keep up.

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Anonymous 5 March, 2011 19:13

BT Infinity really sucks - they can't even install it properly. Stay away. Rip off too and not much faster than 20Meg standard broadband, and super slow due to the torrent traffic capping to 30kb/s!!!!

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Anonymous 5 March, 2011 19:13

BT Infinity really sucks - they can't even install it properly. Stay away. Rip off too and not much faster than 20Meg standard broadband, and super slow due to the torrent traffic capping to 30kb/s!!!!

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Anonymous 5 March, 2011 19:13

BT Infinity really sucks - they can't even install it properly. Stay away. Rip off too and not much faster than 20Meg standard broadband, and super slow due to the torrent traffic capping to 30kb/s!!!!

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Anonymous 5 March, 2011 19:13

BT Infinity really sucks - they can't even install it properly. Stay away. Rip off too and not much faster than 20Meg standard broadband, and super slow due to the torrent traffic capping to 30kb/s!!!!

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Anonymous 5 March, 2011 19:14

BT Infinity really sucks - they can't even install it properly. Stay away. Rip off too and not much faster than 20Meg standard broadband, and super slow due to the torrent traffic capping to 30kb/s!!!!

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Anonymous 5 March, 2011 19:14

BT Infinity really sucks - they can't even install it properly. Stay away. Rip off too and not much faster than 20Meg standard broadband, and super slow due to the torrent traffic capping to 30kb/s!!!!

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Anonymous 5 March, 2011 19:14

BT Infinity really sucks - they can't even install it properly. Stay away. Rip off too and not much faster than 20Meg standard broadband, and super slow due to the torrent traffic capping to 30kb/s!!!!

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Anonymous 5 March, 2011 19:14

BT Infinity really sucks - they can't even install it properly. Stay away. Rip off too and not much faster than 20Meg standard broadband, and super slow due to the torrent traffic capping to 30kb/s!!!!

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Anonymous 5 March, 2011 19:14

BT Infinity really sucks - they can't even install it properly. Stay away. Rip off too and not much faster than 20Meg standard broadband, and super slow due to the torrent traffic capping to 30kb/s!!!!

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Anonymous 5 March, 2011 19:14

BT Infinity really sucks - they can't even install it properly. Stay away. Rip off too and not much faster than 20Meg standard broadband, and super slow due to the torrent traffic capping to 30kb/s!!!!

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Anonymous 5 March, 2011 19:14

BT Infinity really sucks - they can't even install it properly. Stay away. Rip off too and not much faster than 20Meg standard broadband, and super slow due to the torrent traffic capping to 30kb/s!!!!

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Anonymous 5 March, 2011 19:15

BT Infinity really sucks - they can't even install it properly. Stay away. Rip off too and not much faster than 20Meg standard broadband, and super slow due to the torrent traffic capping to 30kb/s!!!!

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Anonymous 5 March, 2011 19:15

BT Infinity really sucks - they can't even install it properly. Stay away. Rip off too and not much faster than 20Meg standard broadband, and super slow due to the torrent traffic capping to 30kb/s!!!!

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Anonymous 5 March, 2011 19:15

BT Infinity really sucks - they can't even install it properly. Stay away. Rip off too and not much faster than 20Meg standard broadband, and super slow due to the torrent traffic capping to 30kb/s!!!!

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Anonymous 5 March, 2011 19:16

BT Infinity really sucks - they can't even install it properly. Stay away. Rip off too and not much faster than 20Meg standard broadband, and super slow due to the torrent traffic capping to 30kb/s!!!!

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Anonymous 5 March, 2011 20:16

So i guess it would be no good for streaming tv from around 8pm onwards ?

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Anonymous 14 March, 2011 12:08

I see people complaining about a 300Gb cap on BT Infinity and all I can think is that it's virtually impossible for me to download anything near 300Gb/month with my standard Virgin Broadband. Ok, it's not really unlimited, but for anyone who are not on a Virgin Cable area BT seems to be by far the best option.

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Anonymous 12 April, 2011 22:58

I wish people would shut up moaning.....it doesn't say 40 MBPS GUARANTEED....it says UP TO a 40 MBPS download speed....there are MANY MANY MANY different reasons for a slower internet connection than people realise....Wiring in your house can affect things, the distance you live from your local telephone exchange can effect the speed also.....and of course your usage and the time at which you use it.....SO SHUT UP MOANING.....I am on the 8 MBPS and am lucky to get 5 MBPS, however......yesterday i signed up for the UNLIMITED 40 MBPS package and will have that installed next Monday....YAYYYYYY.

Most of the cretins that moan about ti are the weirdo's with no life who sit there all day downloading music track after track after track or using torrent to ILLEGALLY download films because they are too darn cheap to go out and BUY THEM.....and when they get slapped on the wrist and forced to a lower speed they FREAK OUT......HAHAHAHAH serves you right.....

So get a grip people.....it SAYS 40 MBPS but unless you live on the same street as the darn telephone exchange then you WONT actually get the full 40 MBPS....

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Anonymous 21 April, 2011 20:39

I was getting a poutry 72Kbs (YES, 72 KBS) with BT. I kept on and on. Told India not to send anymore Engineers, as I had had 8. All they done was pull the wire out, test it and put the wire back in and say 'You have 3 Mbps'. Yep, I could have done the same but after 2- 5 days it woud drop back again to it's 72K.
However, after 18 months I got a new telegraph pole and wired from another cabinet. Great, 3Mps, just like heaven. Next week Infinity arrives and the reckon 29Mbps, I won't know what to do. Hub arrived today, looks neat.
So instead of moaning here, stand your ground and moan at India (I got Ireland in the end) and you will get somethign done.

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Anonymous 8 May, 2011 08:29

I have just signed up for infinity, at the mo am on bt broadband option 1, and get 800kb/s down and 400kb/s up. Sky can only manage 300kb/s down and 200kb/s up. O2 wont supply to my village, and Virgin can only offer dial up internet! Once I got past the appaling customer service in india and managed to speak to the BT care people in Scotland, I am pleased with the service. Although I am yet to be connected to Infinity, watch this space!

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Anonymous 29 May, 2011 16:12

About to reluctantly switch to BT after some appaling service from Orange - although I am pleased with their Mobile telephony, maybe they should stick to their core competance? - BT Infinity here I come. I used to have Virgin in London and the stability/speeds were excellent. I did have cause to complain about TV service and the customer service was pretty dire - they are all much of muchness. The point I want to make is that there is no real choice. Virgin do not cable in the village in which I now live. I wonder how good it is in other countries and the view put forward is that we are very much behind in the UK. Is that truly the case?

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Anonymous 30 May, 2011 13:55

@Anonymous 12 April, 2011 22:58

I wish people would shut up moaning.....it doesn't say 40 MBPS GUARANTEED....it says UP TO a 40 MBPS download speed......I am on the 8 MBPS and am lucky to get 5 MBPS, however......yesterday i signed up for the UNLIMITED 40 MBPS package and will have that installed next Monday....YAYYYYYY.

Dear Anonymous your words are interesting. However your comments advise about what you are going to do. I am sure we would all be interested to know what actually happened AFTER your 40 MB packakge was installed. Has it turned out to be as promised or did you just fall for the BT hype?

Please be honest.

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Anonymous 19 June, 2011 09:36

we have the exchange outside our front door had it install as soon as it came online/once the bt guy came and did his stuff and installed the kit and all was good for about a day then the router kept droping out couldnt cope with the in coming connection service was crap so unpluged it all and got myself a Draytek router £160.00 works perfect getting around 45mb download and upload of 12mb can't complain now.

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Anonymous 1 July, 2011 15:00

A month ago BT 's checker said I should get 20mb on 30 June, then they sent me an offer to come back to BT but moved the 20mb back to September - exactly when their three months free offer ends. Why would I want to take them up on this when I get 20 Mb from Sky now!

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Anonymous 3 July, 2011 19:33

Happily on new Virgin cable platform with 100mbit down and 10mbit up..... Fantastic ! - Its a shame that when we use both cable tv decoders we do see a drop in download speeds but this is far from inconvenient. Solid !

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Anonymous 18 July, 2011 11:52

This year we switched from a BT Home Hub to BT Infinity. Yes I'd say it's better at streaming online video and the speed is good, however its reliability for working is poor. The connection 'drops out' or fails to connect to the internet more than 3 times a day and only after a series of 'restarts' does it once again work. I'd like to highlight that in BT's latest advert for the product, it emphasises that their new divice means that your connection will never 'drop out' or disconnect. In fact, it couldn't be more the opposite.

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anonymous 12 September, 2011 13:11

I am with Virgin and my 10mb internet connection is poor, at peak times lucky if I get 1.5 mb and unable to stream any video's, having BT Infinity fitted tomorrow so lets hope thats better, Virgin was really good until they started to cap you when you downloaded over 1.6gb, only reason for that was reinstalation of windows and downloading of programs, ever since the cap we have had a rubbish connection, so how people go on streaming videos beats me.

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anonymous 14 September, 2011 10:46

I have BT Infinity Option 3. Usually getting around 35 Mb/s download and 8 Mb/s upload with a 15ms ping.
Occasionally (every few weeks?) the download speed drops to around 4 Mb/s, upload speed and ping unaffected. It seems to stay that way for a couple of days and then return to normal.

This seems to suggest bandwidth capping by BT, although it doesn't have any corellation to my usage.

Other than the occasional drops in speed I've been very happy with it so far.

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anonymous 14 September, 2011 11:37

I have had fibre optics from bt for over a couple of months and find it is slower than my old bt line.

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anonymous 8 October, 2011 17:30

Got Infinity connected by the engineer down here in Cornwall on the 9th September. Made the decision to go this way because of 200kbps and 50kbps with the old total BT Broadband.

Two engineers came out and spent 2+ hours trying to get >10mbps download and 1mbps upload. They were both baffled as BT confirmed over the phone to them I should be getting 30.2/10mbps. Asked to wait the two weks to let the line settle down?? Kept a log and best I have seen is 11.2/1.4mbps but this is now in sharp decline - today getting just 9.2 and 0.6mbps. Ironically, I recieved the letter confirming my new connection yesterday (6 weeks late) which states without exception that I should expect to get 32/8mbps.

Got the BT Help desk to pass this issue onto BT Wholesale who should contact me in 48 hours. We''ll see, but in the meantime I-Player will just have to be a thing dreams are made of and I will continue to pay BT their £120/qtr. 3G card looking more attractive every day.....

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anonymous 6 November, 2011 02:12

in regards to the above, if yours or anyones issues regarding speed havent settled perhaps BT have not told you that the way their system works usually means that you would have to leave the internet running constantly without drop outs for 3-5days to allow their system to tinker with your speeds until you get stable results, otherwise normally the speed they would guarantee you wont be able to reach.

i should be on 4.5mb on a 0.4 upload but right now its currently on 6.1mb on a 0.6. getting infinity at the end of the month

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anonymous 28 November, 2011 15:54

Don't forget a lot of us on copper and u will have to renew it a lot more and it's hard to get bt to sore a lil bit of copper at the exchange try get them to renew ur copper from the green box to the house when they don't buy the resources till the defo need it so us have to wait till there's like 10 or more people for them to buy more

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anonymous 11 January, 2012 21:22

To the kid sharing movies to his brother. JUST LEND THEM THE DVD INSTEAD OF UPLOADING

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anonymous 15 February, 2012 07:56

You're wrong about Infinity being incorrect, because that is the time you have to wait if you live in one of the outer rim areas of London. To infinity... Yes indeed

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