HD DVD disc sales figures: Blu-ray gets really cross

AnonymousWed 14 November, 2007 1:13pm

Its funny how the HD-DVD group include the PS3 in their stats when they want to make the Bluray attach rate look bad but they don't include it when they talk about total player sales.

AnonymousWed 14 November, 2007 4:06pm

It's very funny how the Blu-ray side want a game console reclassified as a standalone player when it suits them and not when the dreadful attachment rate is clear to all.

The truth is that when the US retail industry 'called' this war they did so for HD DVD, the Walmarts etc of this world will have their way.

.....and if the format with the best complete spec & features at the keenest prices and which has the most available and exclusive movie content can't sell @ $98 or even $199 then what hope for the Blu-ray gang with less content & their obsolescent & over-priced players?

This GuyWed 14 November, 2007 4:21pm

One anonymous commentator of this article said the retailers 'called this war.' That's a flat out lie. Wal-Mart supports both formats and has both players for sale and both format's movies for sale. Retailers that have sided with a format have been Target, JB, Blockbuster and the HTSA (made up of over 50 retailers) which have all sided with Blu-ray. This same commentator said Blu-ray has 'dreadful attach rates.' What's dreadful about them? Since when has attach rates been the metric for success? Blu-ray has outsold HD DVD by 2:1 to 3:1 all year in software and has hammered HD DVD in hardware by even more. This is why the HD DVD side is clammering to look for anything positive and has picked 'attach rates,' and obvious canard because no industry has ever measured their success based on attach rates. When they're losing so badly on actual sales figures they must come up with something. Spin-masters aren't evil, they're just optimistic.

AnonymousThu 15 November, 2007 9:17am

Attatch rate figures were used because sales numbers are embarassing to the hd dvd camp. All prior comparisons brought by HD DVD were manlipulated as the PS3 was not included as a blu-ray player. They stated it was a gaming system and then claimed more players worldwide. Truth being if the PS3 was included they would never make the results public. Now with an overwhelming number of PS3s with blu-ray players they manipulate the numbers again, now including the PS3 as a blu ray player for their attatch rate figures. The real sales numbers are quite different, as blu-ray has OUTSOLD HD DVD EVERY WEEK THIS YEAR! (and will next year) But without manipulating the numbers its hard to keep the boat from sinking. Toshibia wants to maintain its royalties on its HD DVD format just as it has off its DVD format the last ten years, Its trying every dirty trick(buying off Paramount/Dreamworks, bias sales claims, media payoffs, etc...) yet still sinking. Until there is one format, many are scared to make a decision. Afraid they will end up with a "Betamax" unfortunatly, the war continues, as do HD DVDs underhanded efforts.

AnonymousFri 16 November, 2007 5:34am

By the time they settle this one, we'll all be getting our content through the internet anyway.

cjb110Fri 16 November, 2007 2:26pm

what, the same way the bluray camp ignore the 360 drive?
Sorry but both camps fudge the figures, and neither of them can be trusted, but then again, the figures mean naff all anyways...so why should we care?

at the end of the day, both formats have the same picture quality and same sound quality. At the moment the HDDVD is cheaper, and has no issues with unfinished specs.

AnonymousSun 18 November, 2007 9:03pm

these figures are a disgrace, i for 1 bought my Playstation 3 for use as a complete family media centre and i'm aware of a lot of other fathers that have done the same

DavidMon 19 November, 2007 1:55pm

I truly hope HD-DVD wins. I hate that if I buy a laptop/computer with a blu-ray drive I can't burn DVDs. Cost per mb DVD are still the best format for storing disc storage at the moment and a HD-DVD gives you the best of both - watch HD movies, burn CDs/DVDs and soon HD-DVDs. Plus Sony have a rep for bringing out formats that die on their bums - Betamax, Mini-Disc, UMD - I am shocked Blu-ray has done so well so far but so much of that seems to be linked with the PS3 which is a game console and has boosted Blu-ray sales because the owners don't seem to have many good games to play and want to make the most of their expensive bit of hardware with a blu-ray movie.
Long Live HD-DVD