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Ping in iTunes 10 review: The pong of failure

Ping is pants. The new social network that Apple has added to iTunes 10 offers to link you up with your mates, and with musical celebs, to share and comment on your favourite tunes. So far, so good. But a social network has to be social, and Ping isn't. 

We never thought we'd ask for more Facebook 

Firstly, there's no one on it. Fair enough, Ping just came out this week, and you could argue that people haven't had a chance to sign up. But Spotify launched a similar feature in April, and it shows all the areas that Apple has gone wrong. Like iTunes, most of us here in CNET UK towers have Spotify installed. And with Spotify, we were up and running, hooked up with our mates and sharing playlists within minutes of updating to the new version of the software. How we laughed as our happy hardcore and Canadian lady-folk mingled over the Interwebs!

The special sauce that made that happen is Facebook integration. Whether you love it or loathe it, the fact is that Facebook has taken over the world, and everyone and their mother is on it. That meant that ten seconds after logging onto our Facebook accounts in Spotify, we were connected with our mates and their music.

Despite showing off the same feature in its launch demo, and still claiming it in its help pages, Apple pulled support for Facebook at the last minute. Apple says that Facebook had onerous conditions, but we wonder if Ping's very familiar-looking blue-and-white interface may have gotten Facebook's knickers in a knot.

The lack of Facebook integration means that the only way you can connect with your friends in Ping is to take a stab at searching for them, or spam them with invites over email. Twitter, another network mentioned in Apple's launch dance, is similarly absent from Ping.

Rickrolled by iTunes 

But who needs friends when you have celebrities? Apple trotted out pants-sporting Lady Gaga and adorable-but-off-key Chris Martin during its launch, suggesting that you can use Ping to follow the agent-approved antics of your favourite musicians. But there's not even enough of these self-promoters to go around. That means Ping recommends that you follow the same handful of showoffs -- so it's the aforementioned Gaga and Coldplay for you, me and everyone, whether they reflect our music selection or not.

Tumbleweeds and spam 

If you do find a musician that you want to follow, the comments are already overrun with 'free iPhone' spam. We fully accept that it takes time for social networks to warm up, but with 144,000 people following the Gagatron, there should be more than tumbleweeds and spam.

Since iTunes is a store -- not a streaming music service, like Spotify or last.fm -- even if one of your non-existent friends does recommend a song, you can only listen to a short preview of it. You'll have to open your wallet to hear the whole thing, and where's the fun in that?

Lipstick on a pig 

To top it all off, we're using iTunes 10 on a Windows PC, and it's slow as molasses in January. We wish that Apple had thrown its developers at making iTunes faster and more reliable, rather than working on Ping. 

We're not ones to whinge about Apple stuff being crap just because it lacks features. Apple has proven again and again -- most recently with the iPhone and the iPad -- that if something is fun and easy to use, as long as it does the basics, it doesn't have to have every feature in the world. But Ping isn't fun, it's just flat.

A social network based around music is a great idea, and it's nothing new -- take a bow, last.fm, MySpace, mflow, and Spotify, among others. Apple is usually good at polishing up existing ideas to make them more fun and usable. But iTunes is diabolical to start with, and Ping is a dismal addition. 

Do you agree that Ping sucks? Or are you communing with Lady Gaga as we speak? Let us know in the comments -- or ping us on Ping, if you can find us.

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Pokeh 3 September, 2010 17:18

I completely agree - the whole thing just feels a bit half arsed, and there's pretty much nothing to do on there. Quite surprised that Apple didn't bring something even remotely interesting to the table with this.

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anonymous 3 September, 2010 17:27

agree, without facebook no point, and it's too... damn... slow.

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skapete 3 September, 2010 17:51

Couldn't agree more. Spotify is good because it didn't try to be its own social network, just add a bit extra fun onto facebook which facebook didn't do. All this does is copy last.fm and twitter but does a rubbish job of it!
And the new logo is pants too!

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Anonymous 3 September, 2010 18:37

Agree. waste of time and just too slow

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anonymous 3 September, 2010 19:12

I am a total apple fanboy (I bought an iPad for £730 on day one of preorders) and will rigorously defend anything apple does, but even I think Ping is a waste of time.

I was really shocked with how slow the new version of iTunes is, and Ping is just boring.

The problem is, it was billed as being focused on 'Discovering' new music, but it is very clearly designed to make us 'Buy' more music. And there really isnt anything social about it.

We also dont get anything new from following an artist on Ping than we get from being a fan of them on facebook.

All the lady gaga post are just her facebook updates.

Does seem like it could have done with a bit more development time.

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Anonymous 4 September, 2010 08:38

I don't know where you guys are coming from and certainly not from Apple's side,

Btw how many of you own a mac? LOL

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Anonymous 4 September, 2010 16:26

Haters

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Anonymous 4 September, 2010 16:49

My iphone3g and itunes 10 do not want to play nice together. Its locking up or kicking my phone out of itunes. not impressed. How do I put an older version back on my MacBook Pro. Help Could care less about ping Try again Apple.

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Anonymous 4 September, 2010 18:40

What gets me is not even the musicians I know can register, and I've heard of artists with material on iTunes itself unable to get onto it, let alone us folk find them!

Either you do a social network or you don't, not another bandwagon for already established corporate peeps

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The Fallen 5 September, 2010 07:16

What`s the point of this service, nobody asked for it. plus iTunes is pants as well.

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Pokeh 5 September, 2010 11:46

lol - I love it when Cnet posts an article that criticises Apple - and then you get commenters calling the writers "haters" - even though the various writers there quite often praise Apple for a job well done. You guys have seen Cnets reviews for the iPhone, iPods, Macs, iPads and all of that stuff, right?

Face it: Ping sucks.

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Anonymous 5 September, 2010 16:16

Pokeh 5
have you used it?

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billfred 6 September, 2010 09:45

iTunes sucks.

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Anonymous 6 September, 2010 10:46

This brings me back to an earlier point. How many people on FaceBook are actually your friends or are merely 2-stops-removed "p-nodes". All my real freinds have macs, we all tried Ping and liked it, it's a small group in a small town and none of us are on "People you've never heard of snooping on your life"Book. As for Ping being slow... on a macbook pro... really...?

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Anonymous 6 September, 2010 11:09

If you need a mac to run iTunes, then the 100M Ping users might shrink to 100k only.

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Pokeh 6 September, 2010 18:35

@Anonymous - Yes I have - quite a bit actually. It's awful, I mean really, it's bad.

"Artists we recommend you follow" is so inaccurate it's almost laughable. Why am I getting suggestions for 50 Cent and Daddy Yankee when my library is mostly rock/chip tunes music? It doesn't really add anything new - apart from letting me see which albums that my friends "like" - which I'm not too interested in if I'm honest.

Getting a deal with Facebook would be a start, but there's still a lot to be done to salvage this after that.

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Anonymous 7 September, 2010 16:49

Ping is a complete waste of time...

No interaction with others...fairly static presence in the app. Loads of features missing - could have the last five tracks played, most popular tracks, most recently played artists, number of tracks played today...you get the idea...could show what mood you are in by the music you are playing...so a mood indicator based on types of music played.

No chatting between people...and some random people who are recommended! Strange that one of them had 58k followers...which seems rather a large number given that was in the first few hours of the site being up and running...must be an interesting guy! Well no...actually...

Also the bands...follow them and read inane comments from other people?! I don't care what you were doing five minutes ago...go log onto twitter and tell the people who do care!

I think this is another way of presenting other peoples music for you to hit the preview button, like the clip and buy the music. That's it...alternative advertising. Doesn't work for me.

Sorry Apple you've missed with this one as it stands...

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anonymous 7 September, 2010 23:17

Yup - totally. They should buy last.fm and spotify and merge them, link em to Facebook and them Apple only: That would be something amazing!!

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Anonymous 10 September, 2010 12:00

Totally agree about the shocking performance and instability of iTunes. It has completely put me off Apple products all together.

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Anonymous 18 September, 2010 16:30

im not sure whether someone owning a mac has anything to do with it. they sell their devices on the knowledge and promise that their applications and hardware will work on both platforms.. if they cant provide this satisafactorily on both, they shouldnt be allowed to promote their wares this way!

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Anonymous 3 October, 2010 08:17

I do own a Mac, as I'm a professional musician / composer. Now I find I cant access my own music withiut signing up to Ping which will keep offering crap ive no interest in. I cant even play a new recording into ITunes unless I return all my ITunes software to whoever I bought it from (and I thought it just came with my iMac, didnt it??)

How dare they interfer with my private work!! What next, will my Word and iPhotos be confiscated by Apple? Theyve totally losy my trust as a reputable company.

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